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Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
So let us examine this judgment to eternal damnation in a court like setting.

Unbeliever’s crimes: Basically not believing in god, thus does not alleviate the "sin" from his life. This sin "nature" has its origins in the fall of man. Reference Genesis 1 and 2 for the complete story. So we will in turn look at the origin of this sin "nature" as it is relevant to the unbeliever's case.

Exhibit A: God created the universe and everything in it, also created the angels, which brings us to the next Exhibit.

Exhibit B: Lucifer, Devil, Satan, he goes by many aliases. For this demonstration we will keep it formal and call him Mr. D. Mr. D was created by God much like mankind was according to the testimony of God's word. With this said, it is safe to assume with the creation of Mr. D, that Mr. D personality was also a result of God's work.

Exhibit C: The fall of Mr. D as explained through several, however questionable sources was that Mr. D was prideful and wanted to be like god. Now since we only have God and the testimony of his angels, which follow a military like structure. The eye witness of the fall of Mr. D credibility is questionable. Why is this? Conflict of interest, since we do not have any neutral party. We cannot simply assume that the events stated by God and his angelic employees are creditable. Thus we cannot judge Mr. D intentions or motivations and this will be discarded.

Exhibit D: After the war in heaven event Mr. D is then cast to the earth. There he hold some sort of vendetta against god, this in turn will bring us into the fall of man event.

Exhibit E: God creates earth and mankind, making man first and woman second. The intelligence of these beings are unknown and we have to fully question their cognitive abilities to make sound judgment. God also now creates two trees, according to his own witness There was the tree of life and tree of knowledge, he gives orders not to eat of the tree of knowledge. The penalty of course is death. This brings us into another issue, due to the questionable cognitive abilities of mankind, do they have the mental facilities to follow such command? This brings us into another factor, God has knowledge of Mr. D being on the planet. God also has valid reason to suspect Mr. D will in fact attempt to mislead mankind. Mankind in a possible vulnerable state and God knowing this does nothing.

The crime: So as the story goes, Eve is possible isolated from Adam and thus vulnerable. There with a simple word game Mr. D tempts Eve to eat from the tree of knowledge that god put there intentionally. We have to question not mankind’s, or Mr. D's judgment but god. If mankind did not have the cognitive facilities to reason out a simple command, that responsibility lies with the creator.

Counterclaim and conclusion: Based on the summarized case, I forward the motion that any judgment to hell to unbeliever is lifted due to technicality. This technicality is the accusation of entrapment. Reason being God being the creator was responsible for Mr. D's actions as his creator. God's creation of mankind with plausible cognitive limitations and the intentional placement of a substance that will cause mortal and in this case immortal harm. In summary, Eve was not presented a fair and just set of circumstances, mankind's case has not been fairly reviewed by due process. The unbeliever of a reasonable moral standard should be relieved of all charges. Due to limitations on reliable information we cannot investigate if there was malicious intent on the side of Gods.


It might be little messy as work did not allow a deep proofread. Enjoy the premise though!
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I would be a televangelist....but I have too much of a soul.
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Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by Michael Schubert - August 10, 2013 at 8:23 pm
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place? - by The Reality Salesman - August 10, 2013 at 9:00 pm
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