RE: Blind faith and evolution
August 26, 2013 at 8:24 am
(This post was last modified: August 26, 2013 at 8:30 am by Cyberman.)
(August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am)enrico Wrote:(August 26, 2013 at 1:01 am)Stimbo Wrote: What I object to is you continually ascribing to me beliefs I have never claimed, simply to score cheap points. Please knock it off. I never said I believe in luck, good or bad. In the context of the discussion, I said the cosmos is totally indifferent to us and what we believe (that means it doesn't give a damn).
I can not see any logic in your comment.
If the cosmos is..........totally indifferent to us and what we believe ..........then it means that nobody can rein in the cosmos therefore it is all a question of good or bad lack whether we will be affected by it.
Correct! At least as far as the good/bad luck thing. Luck, in the sense we're using it here, is more to do with chance governed by physical laws rather than what we label as luck. Whether we call it good or bad depends on the outcome.
(August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am)enrico Wrote: Moreover when you say..........that means it doesn't give a damn........ you imply that the cosmos must have some sort of consciousness in order to express judgments.
Uhm... all a bit confusing Stimbo.
Uhm... no. You could equally well say I'm implying the cosmos has a mouth to express these things. You're confused because it's made of straw.
(August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am)enrico Wrote:Quote:Also I have never said that "God" does not exist so I have no need to demonstrate that. You're the one who keeps asserting that it does exist, so you have the burden of proof.
I think you are making a bit of confusion.
When you say..........Tough. That's what you get for living in a cosmos that isn't even aware of your existence and wouldn't give a flying fox even if it was......you imply that you do not believe in a supreme controller of this universe or perhaps that if this controller exist he would not give a damn about what happen.
In other words you do not believe in a controller or in a controller that does his work by controlling the cosmos.
Correct! We have a winner! I do not believe in these things, I am not the one positing that they exist - therefore do not have to prove they don't.
(August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am)enrico Wrote:Quote:You have shown a lack of awareness in pretty much every field up to this point and have distorted everything else, deliberately or not. That you get upset when called out on it is irrelevant.
You guys have to demonstrate that your pop corn theory is valid before you tell me that i distort everything.
The only person around here with a pop corn theory is you. You like your strawmen, don't you?
(August 26, 2013 at 7:33 am)enrico Wrote: Now if you believe that there is no reincarnation in which people start from lower form of lives to higher form of lives and the lives are shaped according their action then it does not make sense that we get out the popping machine in totally different shapes.
I am still waiting that someone come out with a proper explanation.
Except I don't believe there is no reincarnation, I merely lack the belief that there is. The ball, as they say, is in your court.
I do feel we're making progress though.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'