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Moral Argument for God's Existence
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RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence
(September 2, 2013 at 4:45 am)Zen Badger Wrote: To elaborate, an objective morality will be something that humans will have no choice but to obey.

Like gravity or the speed of light.

And since any behaviour that you or I might find wrong or even reprehensible will be practised with great enjoyment by somebody, somewhere.

It is is extremely hard to claim that objective morality exists.

This position is as baseless as claiming that objective morality requires a god.

Morality is a standard to judge human actions. Humans have many such standards to judge different things - we've standards for weights, lengths, volumes etc. The objectivity of these standards only depends on their non-reliance on individual perception.

Take measurement of quantity for instance. It used to be subjective - a fistful of rice, a pinch of salt etc. It'd vary from individual to individual based on their physical specifications. But now we've established a specific quantity as 1 cubic-meter or 1 kilogram and we use that as standard to measure it. It is objective because it no longer depends on any individual. Further, individual rejection of the standard doesn't make it subjective.

Similarly, objective morality would simply mean that the code of ethics would not change with the person applying it. Unquestioning compliance is not a requirement. Universal acceptance is, likewise, not a requirement.
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Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Tonus - September 2, 2013 at 7:25 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Captain Colostomy - September 2, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 6:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Jackalope - September 2, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 2, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Walking Void - September 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by NoraBrimstone - September 2, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 2, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Lemonvariable72 - September 2, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 2, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 3, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 4, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 3, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 3, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 4, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 7, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 7, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 4, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by HenWladFyNhadau - September 4, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm

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