RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence
September 2, 2013 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2013 at 9:37 am by genkaus.)
(September 2, 2013 at 8:48 am)bennyboy Wrote: Okay, so there are some values that are so strong in the human population that they are nearly universal. Why would God be a better description of that fact than evolution?
I'd say neither is a good description.
(September 2, 2013 at 9:23 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And therein lies my point morals are subjective, not objective. Because if they were objective such as gravity is we would have no choice but to obey them.
And since clearly people are capable of defying them they cannot therefore be objective.
A point that I hope made a whooshing noise as it passed over genkaus's head.
I got your point, and I'm saying that your point is invalid.
Morality is a conceptual standard, not a physical law. Which is why your comparison to gravity is incorrect. There are multiple objective conceptual standards available to us that people are capable of defying. Which is why, the objectivity of a moral system does not depend on an individual's defiance of it.
To put it simply, justify your statement - "if morality was objective, people would have to obey".