Moral Argument for God's Existence

[Chas]

And how is 'ought' determined? Whose 'ought' is it?

That's a separate discussion that comes after we establish the parameters of relevance.

That is not a separate discussion. You said morality is about how we ought to live.

How is that morality? You have made a rather elliptical reference, but have not satisfactorily defined anything.

You do know what 'illustrating a point' means, right?

I've given you the definitions. Morality is about how to live. Survival is about how to stay alive till the next moment. I've illustrated the difference by using a hypothetical example where difference in morality makes an objective difference in the quality of life. What else do you expect?

You have illustrated comparing the way two people chose to live, not the morality of the choices. And it is not objective; it is your value judgement about which is better.