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Moral Argument for God's Existence
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RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence
September 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm
(September 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm)genkaus Wrote:
(September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm)Chas Wrote: But that is exactly the point. Your examples are created by societies/religions. They are not applicable to our solitary person, they are external to him/her.

You do know what 'applicable' means, right? What something is created by and what it is applicable to are two different things. And being external to the person does not affect the applicability.

(September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm)Chas Wrote: Morality is behavior, and behavior matters in the context of other people. It doesn't matter what our solitary person does - it cannot be judged moral or immoral. There is no one to judge.

Don't make me keep repeating the same refutation. That person is there to judge. His behavior matters to him. His behavior has a significant and observable effect on himself. Which is why it can be judged as moral or immoral.

So you are saying that each person determines his or her morality, what is or isn't moral?
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Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Tonus - September 2, 2013 at 7:25 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Captain Colostomy - September 2, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 6:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Jackalope - September 2, 2013 at 11:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 2, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Zen Badger - September 2, 2013 at 9:23 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 9:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 2, 2013 at 12:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Walking Void - September 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by NoraBrimstone - September 2, 2013 at 3:47 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 2, 2013 at 3:54 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 2, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Lemonvariable72 - September 2, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 2, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 2, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 1:19 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by CapnAwesome - September 3, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 3, 2013 at 7:32 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Minimalist - September 3, 2013 at 3:56 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 3, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:18 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:26 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by bennyboy - September 4, 2013 at 3:01 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 9:54 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Esquilax - September 4, 2013 at 8:55 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Faith No More - September 3, 2013 at 3:44 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 3, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:03 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 3, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 3, 2013 at 5:36 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 3, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 3, 2013 at 10:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Simon Moon - September 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:27 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by MindForgedManacle - September 4, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by pocaracas - September 4, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 4, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 6, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Chas - September 7, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by genkaus - September 7, 2013 at 9:49 am
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by Angrboda - September 4, 2013 at 2:15 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 3:42 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by HenWladFyNhadau - September 4, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence - by max-greece - September 4, 2013 at 1:52 pm

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