RE: Governments are The Number one Killer
September 9, 2013 at 9:25 pm
(This post was last modified: September 9, 2013 at 9:26 pm by Koolay.)
(September 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Well, yeah. There's always going to be a bunch of bad apples, but, really, without that, those bad apples are going to see fit to take over. Then, there are two outcomes:
1) You don't get guns and you die.
2) You get guns and this starts up a war which will only end when A) An outside force sets in, or B) One side is either destroyed or enslaved. Needless to say, it's a far cry from your view.
But since we are enslaved and ruled by the government now, and if the worse thing that could happen after removing the government is that we will have another government.
It's like saying to someone, 'we can put you on a treatment to remove your cancer, the worse thing that can happen is that your cancer will come back' I'll take my chances then!
(September 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: That said, whether we should not do something or not doesn't mean it's possible to do something. And, seriously, there's no guarantee an anarchistic society will be any less violent than the normal society. Somalia, in fact, is showing the exact opposite.
Anarchy means rules but no rulers. Governments just have a monopoly on violence now, I rationally oppose all aggressive entities. Besides, Somalia is just the result of a failed state, it's hardly a product of a revolution of reason and philosophy.
(September 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And you fail to show any viable alternative to it.
My solution to replace stealing is not to steal. My solution to rape is not to rape.
(September 9, 2013 at 8:46 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: In micro examples it works, because there, we have small groups of like-minded people. And they oftentimes try to isolate themselves from the rest of the world. Applying it to large populations doesn't work, because, well, people aren't like-minded. Immoral or not, it works a whole lot better than anarchy. Are you picking up a pattern here?
I'm sorry but when does using violence work in a small group? Are you saying stealing, rape, and torture works well as long as it happens locally?
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