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Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics
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RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics
(September 12, 2013 at 9:43 pm)InevitableCheese Wrote:
(September 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Sometimes philosophers seem to not understand that knowledge has advanced since Plato, Aristotle et al. As amazing as their contributions to so many fields have been, we know so much more now. Aristotle advocated ideas that were clearly incorrect. We've attained a tremendous amount of knowledge by refuting and challenging these ideas. That's how knowledge advances. Although I haven't read said book it seems from your synopsis like a complicated version of an argument from authority.

Feser talks about this in the 5th chapter, "Descent of the Modernists". He pushes that our immorality is because we abandoned Aristotelian metaphysics, and the morality it implies. He also talks about how science never refuted Aristotle's metaphysics (although disproving his science, of course), and that the main reason modern philosopher's began leaving them is because "we'll end up spending more time contemplating first principles and the state of our souls and less time thinking up new gadgets." The push for science, and the desire to better this material life, spawned modernists. He also blames Martin Luther and John Calvin for pushing that wealth is good/poverty is bad, and supporting individual conscience over Aristotelian Scholasticism.

Our immorality? Give me a break. We live in the least violent time in history. Aristotle also advocated slavery as a natural system and claimed that women were intellectually inferior. Is that the morality that he wishes we had back? Sounds again like a Theist longing for the good ole days when they were in change and we had to give a shit or be burned at the stake.
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RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by Angrboda - September 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by Ryantology - September 11, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by CapnAwesome - September 12, 2013 at 9:55 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 11:23 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 15, 2013 at 1:40 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by CapnAwesome - September 12, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by Chas - September 12, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 12, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by Chas - September 13, 2013 at 9:11 am
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by CapnAwesome - September 15, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Plato, Aristotle, Aquinas, and Metaphysics - by genkaus - September 13, 2013 at 7:53 am

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