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The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism
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RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism
(September 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(September 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm)Koolay Wrote: Freedom does not mean equality. Freedom simply means that no one shall violate the non aggression principle, no matter who you are.

Freedom has nothing to do with making circumstances equal, it is to make morality equal. If I violently deface anyone beautiful to make things more equal for less attractive people, I have just replaced genetic unfairness with the initiation of violence, something far worse.

I never claimed it did.

You were the one who made the complaint about disproportionate benefit from one economic system. One could reasonably presume that you could recommend a system that is not flawed in that manner? In keeping with your professed libertarian ideals, such a system would necessarily feature economic freedom, yes?

Apparently subtlety is lost on you. I'll use smaller words next time.

Well, I am just bringing it back to fact based level. Statists always talk about how the government helps this and that, yet they are empirically wrong, as the facts almost always contradict with what they claim.

The less coercive and violent a society is, the better it is for the most vulnerable members of that society - this is pretty fundamental. My solution is to stop using violence to solve complex social issues like income inequality, since it will inevitably do the opposite. And the facts back this up.

My system, if you could call it that, is simply a free market, where everyone is subject to the same rules and laws as everyone else. Non aggression principles, respect for property rights.

(September 21, 2013 at 6:04 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Does anarchist healthcare make people healthier? Wtf? Healthcare is healthcare, there is good healthcare and bad healthcare, how it is funded doesn't affect people's health unless it affects the quality of the healthcare.

But you are using the word 'fund', the state is not like a normal business, it does not really fund anything, it violently takes from innocent people, then uses that money to bribe special interest groups into obedience.

And of course it makes a difference!!!

Violence makes everything shittier, If I violently force you to buy a healthcare plan from me, what kind of service do you think you will get?

If I lock a girl I am attracted to in my basement, I am not going to be buying hallmark cards and flowers for her any time soon. Obviously.

Whereas if I am operating voluntarily, and try to convince people to buy my healthcare product/service, obviously this will be a higher quality product/service, since I can not rely on violence to get my pay check, I need to impress people, and offer something of value to customers to make my money. Where there is violence, things turn to shit, I'm sure you understand this.
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by pocaracas - September 21, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Jackalope - September 21, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by pocaracas - September 21, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by pocaracas - September 21, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by orogenicman - September 21, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by pocaracas - September 22, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by FlyingNarwhal - September 21, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Jackalope - September 21, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Jackalope - September 21, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 21, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Jackalope - September 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Jackalope - September 21, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Autumnlicious - September 21, 2013 at 7:35 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 22, 2013 at 9:31 am
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Autumnlicious - September 21, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Autumnlicious - September 21, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Darth - September 22, 2013 at 12:49 am
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by pocaracas - September 22, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Koolay - September 22, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Isun - September 22, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: The Rich Benefit the Most from Socialism - by Autumnlicious - September 22, 2013 at 4:42 pm

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