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Path to Atheism
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RE: Path to Atheism
Before I tackle these questions, you have to take a step back and look at the whole picture, and not just get pulled into the Christ equation.

For a god to rule the universe, he must be all-powerful and all-knowing. If he is all powerful, why doesn't he help those in need? If he is all knowing, how can there be free will if he already knows everything we'll do?

Tongue-twister: Omnipotence negates benevolence, and omniscience negates free will.

(October 1, 2013 at 9:44 am)themonkeyman Wrote: [*]Why did Jesus have to die?
No one knows for sure if he even existed. If he did, he was just another nuisance saying he had special relations to God and was making a cult. There is no story of Jesus before the Gospels were written (in Greek, pro-Roman and anti-Jewish) and they are so full of contradictions that they just can't be believed. There weren't 4 Gospels, there were over 40. The Christians just picked the ones they liked best and labeled them holy. Pure cheese.
Quote:[*]Why did God need a Human Sacrifice to forgive us humans?
Read the OT. God demanded a lot of sacrifice and blood. And if it did forgive us humans, there is no sign it ever helped, considering that war and conquest continued on even after the time of Jesus. If God forgave us of anything, there is no sign of it.
Quote:[*]Based upon this Is it correct that humans can sacrifice each-other to God to redeem one another?
Aztecs killed thousands of people a year to appease their gods. It didn't do them any good, either.
Quote:[*]How was Jesus sinless? Simply he went round breaking the old Mosaic law then saying he was sinless. Both are incomparable?
Jesus was not sinless. He wanted nothing to do with his mother, he convinced men to abandon their families and follow him and he basically said "believe I'm sent by God or you'll burn in Hell." To me, that guy had some problems.
Quote:[*]If Jesus is Subordinate to God why do people worship him and not God Almighty?
It depends on what Gospel you read. In some, he's a servant of God. By John's Gospel, he IS God. His story just got romanticized with time.
Quote:[*]If God is just why did he let innocent Jesus die?
He didn't. It's all make-believe. Don't get sucked into the fantasy. Look at things as a whole.
Quote:[*]In Church you pray in Jesus name, Why would you do this if God is surely more powerful and Jesus is subordinate to him.
See my last answer. And when's the last time a prayer gave you tangible results? Don't call random chance a "blessing."
Quote:[*]What evidence to you have that Jesus literally said he was God Almighty.
None. 40 Gospels that conflict with each other kinda make Jesus' claims should like a bunch of BS, don't they?
Quote:[*]If God gave humans free will why did Jesus not utilise this?
If there is a God, then he knows everything we'll ever do. Plus, he has a plan for the universe. Therefore, everything we do is known to his plan. Therefore, free will is not plausible. We do what he wants. If he didn't want it in his pre-fab plans, he'd stop us. But then again, look at the whole picture. Jesus' story is junk because it has little consistency, and a God is just not plausible.
Quote:Do you want more
Only if it's an intelligent question, and not faith-based fantasy.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
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Messages In This Thread
Path to Atheism - by themonkeyman - October 1, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Path to Atheism - by Drich - October 1, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Path to Atheism - by Minimalist - October 1, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Path to Atheism - by ThomM - October 2, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: Path to Atheism - by Beta Ray Bill - October 3, 2013 at 12:52 am
RE: Path to Atheism - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 3:05 pm

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