RE: rational naturalism is impossible!
October 9, 2013 at 8:02 am
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 8:10 am by Rational AKD.)
(October 9, 2013 at 5:47 am)FallentoReason Wrote: And as you and I have discussed, a great way to debunk this is to read the Bible itself; Lucifer and A&E knew of God's existence, yet they failed to do everything you say they should have done as people who *knew* of God's existence.
the point was to show those who try and appease God will fail if God reveals himself to convince people of his existence. this of course doesn't apply to those who don't try. Lucifer acted selfishly by trying to appease himself by trying to exceed God. Adam and Eve likewise wished to appease themselves by becoming 'like God.' i'm not saying sin would be eliminated, i'm saying the love for God would be replaced by self righteousness.
(October 9, 2013 at 5:49 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: RationalAKD-
Yours isn't even an argument.
Unless you are, or speak for, the sumbitch, you cannot say shit. And the fear bit? You speak for everyone else on the planet?
show me one time a successful attempt at forcing love. i'm not speaking for the planet, i'm speaking for what is possible and impossible. you can't force love. if God revealed himself, humans would either fear and try to become self-righteous or fear him and rebel against him. neither of those reactions are what God wants. tell me, if God showed up to you and showed you his awesome power, would this cause you to love him?
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo
