RE: rational naturalism is impossible!
October 9, 2013 at 12:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 1:02 pm by DeistPaladin.)
(October 9, 2013 at 5:41 am)Rational AKD Wrote: Why doesn't God do miracles today? because God doesn't aspire to convince everyone of his existence. you may think that to be his goal but it's not...I'm sorry, has a new god moved into town and Christians decided to worship that one instead of the one I read about in the Bible?
When did the same god, Yahweh, in the Bible, suddenly decide on a policy of subtlety? When did the god Yahweh decide that inspiring fear was not a good thing and yet keep the policy of dumping all the unbelievers into a place of eternal torment? Either you haven't read your Bible or your god has had some kind of religious, transfiguration experience. Perhaps your god has been attending anger management courses?
Seriously, dude, read the Bible and either get your god consistent with the character depicted in it or else just make up your own religion and put the Bible away.
Your god hardened the heart of the Egyptian ruler so that he could lay down his ten curses and display his terrible power for the Israelis and Egyptians to see.
Quote:Exodus
4:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go.
7:3-5 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt. But Pharaoh shall not hearken unto you, that I may lay my hand upon Egypt, and bring forth mine armies, and my people the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments. And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I stretch forth mine hand upon Egypt, and bring out the children of Israel from among them.
9:14 For I will at this time send all my plagues upon thine heart, and upon thy servants, and upon thy people; that thou mayest know that there is none like me in all the earth.
10:1-2 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him: And that thou mayest tell in the ears of thy son, and of thy son's son, what things I have wrought in Egypt, and my signs which I have done among them; that ye may know how that I am the LORD.
14:4 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, that he shall follow after them; and I will be honoured upon Pharaoh, and upon all his host; that the Egyptians may know that I am the LORD.
Another example, how about when Korah denied Moses was a prophet of your god?
Quote:Numbers
16:1-3 Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben, took men: And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown: And they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron, and said unto them, Ye take too much upon you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them: wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?
16:27 So they gat up from the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, on every side: and Dathan and Abiram came out, and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their little children.
16:31-35 And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel that were round about them fled at the cry of them: for they said, Lest the earth swallow us up also. And there came out a fire from the LORD, and consumed the two hundred and fifty men that offered incense.
Let's test that out.
I deny Moses was a prophet.
Hmmmm, nothing happened. Perhaps your god is growing blind and unable to read. Here it is in larger letters:
I DENY MOSES WAS A PROPHET
Nothing happened. Strange.
In any event, your god is not the least bit subtle nor reserved when it comes to terrorizing people into obedience.
But all that was before Jesus, right? Yahweh changed after that point, right?
Quote:Acts 12:23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.
Your god is not subtle. Your god is not reticent to invoke fear or strike at the blasphemers and unbelievers.
Come on Yahweh, you pussy. Strike me dead now! I dare you! Did getting laid with Mary mellow you out? You growing old and weak? Come on, let me have it! Your devoted worshipers are watching! Screw the Holy Spirit! To Hell with Jesus! I've got some idols here! Did I mention I'm openly bi? What do I have to do to inspire the wrath you showed during "Biblical times"?
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Anytime, Yahweh, you pussy! Strike me dead! Have the earth swallow me! Bring down your column of fire!
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We're waiting!
Not much of a god you've got there.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
