RE: Iran, more arrests of gays and lesbians.
October 14, 2013 at 8:25 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 8:27 pm by kılıç_mehmet.)
(October 14, 2013 at 7:53 pm)Brakeman Wrote: Before you totally stomp his grapes, consider that the change from a propagandized social bigot to a understanding believer in full equality is achieved in a series of several steps. Most of us old enough to remember know that homophobia was not a self-acquired position, anymore than racism was. It was pushed through social peer pressure. It was reinforced from the churches and families. As one falls away from the towed line, one slowly self corrects as one learns more and contemplates more from a position of equality.
I was raised in a Southern Baptist preacher's house and you can best dern bet that I was a homophobe for years.
It takes time to unlearn all that one has learned.
I suggest that we not harshly attack anyone who is not concretely on the other side of the fence but argue and explain why they are so wrong.
P.S.
Oops.. I just his following post.. nevermind..
Since you obviously don't know me, I was not raised in a religious household, or one that is racist. I have come to the logical conclusion that these are the real parameters that have defined societies for years, and I do know that this will continue in the future.
I really don't like the term "homophobe". I really don't need to fear gays, they don't have the power to change anything, nor do they have the power to create anything, i.e. children.
I am attacking here a certain flawed mindset called liberal cosmopolitanism, I am attacking a mindset that is anti-social and feels entitled to things that they have no rights to.
P.S. Brian here, has again made a comment that I ignored in his previous post about my "insecurities", which I really don't understand.
Obviously he's using very common liberal statements of accusing the "person" that brings forth the arguments, rather than referring to the arguments themselves, he is the one to come forth with personal attacks. I have not called him a degenerate or an anti-social, rootless cosmopolitan that lacks character and wants society to be a den of vice, one that is ruled only by individualistic, bestial desires.
But he goes on ranting about my "insecurity" which seems to be the only argument he can bring up.
And he goes on about ranting on the Taliban and etc., which is not really the same context, and has no real connections to what I have said.
And he's helping me by telling me that I need to grow up. Actually I'm helping him by telling him to open his eyes, and realize that his dissociation with reality and the majority is not gaining him any kind of sympathy before their eyes.
Obviously he does not listen, and speaks as though as I particularly enjoy speaking to him, that he will stop coddling my insecurities by not replying to my words. Nicely done, brian. But as I said, the clock is ticking. Your way of thinking has failed. And you'll soon understand what it means to mock the majority.
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