RE: Iran, more arrests of gays and lesbians.
October 14, 2013 at 11:01 pm
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 11:12 pm by IAmNotHere.)
(October 14, 2013 at 6:32 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Personally, even though I'm against homosexuality and homosex propaganda in public, they also do have a right to exist. However, since its in Iran, its really none of my business.
The right to exist is an interesting choice of words.
Define homosexual propaganda.
(October 14, 2013 at 7:08 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Since gays or "LGBT" as you call them, are a self-proclaimed minority, I generally tend to look at them as I look towards any other minority.
In my country, there are ethnic minorities that come to me with more or less the same fucking argument that gays or their activists spout in the west.
And I don't treat the gays in any different manner in this than I do ethnic minorities. Minorities do not have the right to impose their own agenda upon the majority. That I will not abide.
Other than that, they do share all the same rights with the majority. If they ask for more, I suggest that they get their own fucking state, and become a majority of their own right, when they can make rules that fit their expectations.
And well, you really make the wrong connections and provide me with wrong comparisons.
I tend to look at it in this way:
A minority comes to me and asks for rights for education in their own language, and then comes to me to provide him with a working place where he can use the education he received in his own language. Its like the situation in Finland, where the Swedish minority fucks up the Finnish majority by forcing them to learn Swedish, for the sake of the minority.
Then the gays come up to me and require me to change marriage according to their specifications so that they can more easily follow their own agenda that in itself is anti-social and counterculture, meaning they try to do the same as the example above, trying to force the majority to do things their way.
But let me tell you this, no one in this world needs the gays. I don't need them. I tolerate their existence because I value human life, but I don't need them to tell me how to define certain things such as marriage, or I don't need them to force me into re-shaping society according to their specifications. So if they don't like it, if they don't want to play things my way, they can go. I say this not only to them, but to any minorty with that kind of an entitlement mentality.
And let me tell you this, people are getting bored of this liberal bullshit. With each day passing, nationalist movements gain foothold in Europe and America, as much as the governments try to suppress it, as people are getting tired with the distortion of their national values, their culture and their traditions which have defined their societies for centuries are being stepped on and trampled underfoot in the name of minorities and marginal groups such as the artificially generated "LGBT" minority. But you're too blind to see. Your way of thinking has failed, and the implementation of failed ideals always backfires. And it will backfire in a way that you won't know what hit you. Liberal cosmopolitanism will be flushed down the toilet for good.
Self proclaimed minority? What else would you call the LGBT community exactly? We are not a majority.
Minorities do not have the right to voice their agenda huh? How else are they supposed to move forward to try and gain equal rights in society exactly?
I take it you are talking about gays fighting for rights in your country. It is funny how these "if you dont like it get out or dont look" attitude comes out but if the roles are reversed people cry persecution.
How is being gay and wanting a legal gay union anti-social exactly? They are not forcing the majority to do anything other than to ALLOW them to be legally recognised as a united couple exactly the same as heterosexual couples. That is all.
No one ever said that us homos are needed by anyone. We are what we are and your arguement doesnt really make much sense in this regard. I do not recall trying to reshape society, just working towards being able to be myself in society. Two entirely different things.
Why is it that you think that your way is the best way or the right way, and that other ways are not? There are plenty of religious and/or heterosexuals who support what it is the LGBTs are trying to achieve. WHat do you say to them?
That last paragraph kinda smelt of consipiracy. Artificially created? Say what now
(October 14, 2013 at 8:25 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I really don't like the term "homophobe". I really don't need to fear gays, they don't have the power to change anything, nor do they have the power to create anything, i.e. children.
No one "needs" to fear gays...fear is rarely rational.
Also, gays can create children. We are not born barren. The method is just a little different.
