Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: May 29, 2026, 7:24 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
The Problem of Natural Evil
#25
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil
genkaus Wrote:On the other hand, if we view evil as "intentional compromise of an agency", then, no matter what the benefit, you do not have the right to torture and kill that 5-year old. So, no matter what the aliens have promised you in return, that act would remain an evil one.

This is a Kantian view of morality. Basically, an agent has to be seen as the end and not a means to an end, like the 5-year-old in Boru's example. I'd say Kant's moral imperative seems to work for just about any situation, and explains very neatly why we instinctively see something as bad, yet we can't quite put our finger on why that is.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
Reply



Messages In This Thread
The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 1:35 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 6:57 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Chas - October 13, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Tartarus Sauce - October 13, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 8:06 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:26 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Drich - October 13, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Drich - October 13, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Captain Colostomy - October 13, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by IAmNotHere - October 13, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by IAmNotHere - October 14, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 14, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 14, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 16, 2013 at 5:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 17, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Tonus - October 18, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 18, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 18, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 14, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by ThomM - October 15, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 16, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by freedomfromforum - October 18, 2013 at 11:48 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  UCKG: Church tells boy 'evil spirit' hides in him zebo-the-fat 3 2079 June 12, 2024 at 11:01 pm
Last Post: awty
Brick If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist zwanzig 738 165992 June 28, 2023 at 10:48 am
Last Post: emjay
  Natural family planning LinuxGal 75 21826 January 1, 2023 at 10:30 am
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Free will and the necessary evil Mystical 133 41312 December 16, 2022 at 9:17 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  Free will and the necessary evil Mystical 14 3731 November 11, 2022 at 5:34 pm
Last Post: Ahriman
  Armageddon. Does it make Jesus rather evil? Greatest I am 21 5903 February 9, 2021 at 1:35 pm
Last Post: awty
  Christians pray evil away on the winter solstice. brewer 9 2767 December 29, 2020 at 1:27 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Hitler was genocidal and evil. Yahweh’s genocides are good; say Christians, Muslims & Greatest I am 25 7177 September 14, 2020 at 3:50 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Theist ➤ Why ☠ Atheism is Evil Compared to ✠ Christianity The Joker 177 50928 December 3, 2016 at 11:24 pm
Last Post: Amarok
  The Problem of Evil (XXVII) SteveII 248 60782 June 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm
Last Post: SteveII



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)