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Lingvogeometry
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RE: Lingvogeometry
Playing whac-a-mole was fun for a while - but now its just a lot of work for nothing. Your reply to everything is the same: "the obvious and simple explanation is not the correct one. The reeeally correct explanation is that they subconsciously see the moon in that stuff which is why they worship it". And that's just bullshit. You are the only one seeing moons everywhere - almost as if you were hit in the head with a giant mallet.

So, unless you have something better to say, this would be my last post on the matter.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: You can stay in this happy delusion if you want. For you Buddha is laughing because he is happy. However, Buddhists know very well, what exactly they do while laughing. It is simple neuro lingustis programming in order to have a possibility to MaNipulate. And it works 100% as it is passed by your conscious without distrust.

So, the obvious reason that laughing buddha denotes happiness is wrong and the real reason is that Buddists see the moon in his smile? That's delusional.



(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: You mean this one: 眼睛
Its having even two stairs. Don’t you see that?
And this one目is eye also. Check Wiktionary http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/目

I see that Apo already hammered this one down. Waiting for you to say that the original pictogram "actually" is about the moon.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: Ok. And what is that simple reason to build stair structures dedicated to gods in every part of the world?

That gods live in the sky and any architecture in their honor must appear as if "reaching to the sky".


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: So why there are many symbols left by ancients which connect this two concepts?
Why moon is written together with scales what are the symbol of justice?

There aren't and it isn't.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: So 12 lunar months. Time, which is reckoned by the position of moon. And start of year on first new moon after solstice.
It is lunar calendar. Same was used everywhere. Sun is used only one time a year, but for those who can count to 13 it is also useless. Every 13th moon the new year is coming.
What was wrong in my claim?

This: "12 lunar months of 27 or 28 days".
and this: "resulting discrepancy was resolved by the intercalation of a leap month every 60 months".

The 12x30 model of gregorian calendar does not fit here. The number of days in a year were not fixed and thus could not be used as standard for anything. Which means, the number 720 does not refer to and has not connection to having "360 days in a year".



(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: Same from your side. Whatever I give you is “not moon”, “not crescent” and “horns have no connection with moon”

Only when it isn't.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: For you complex explanation that lunar deity is having a bow because she is a hunter is ok. But simple explanation that artist was representing the shape of deity via the shape of its symbol, seems insane. Just because it is not written in books.

I think you are confused between the meanings of the words "simple" and "complex".

Artemis is the goddess of the hunt - first and foremost. Which is why she uses a bow and which is why she is associated with a lot of wild animals. That's the simple explanation.

Greeks had a bunch of other moon deities as well - Phoebe, Selene, Hecate. If the bow was supposed to be a subtle reference to the moon, then all the other lunar deities would be depicted with bows. They aren't, so, it isn't.

(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: It reminds me the situation with Giordano Bruno.
His geometrical calculations were giving an answer that Earth is turning around the Sun. But church and books of that time had an opposite position fantasied by ancient stupid guys.
Giordano Bruno was killed, but now everybody knows he was correct.
Same with you. You are ready to call insane person, which you even don’t know, who is telling you the result of complex mathematic modelling, just because it is not stated in books fantasied by ancient stupid people. I don’t mean they were stupid, but they did not have that knowledge base and computing power, which is available now.
Think about it. Many ancient concepts appear to be wrong. Even not ancient.
Hundred years ago, people were sure that arsenic helps for many diseases. Try to assure somebody now that it is, and prove it by using only hundred years old book.
People will call you stupid.
But you seriously want to prove your position about god issues using thousand years books and knowledge.
The world is changing quickly. If you cannot think by your own head and analyze the situation with fresh mind, you are doomed to chew somebody’s old chewing gum without a chance to understand the history and reality.

The difference is, nobody would've stopped Bruno from publishing his findings and getting worldwide acclaim for his findings in this day and age. And nobody is stopping you. So, go ahead. Publish your hare-brained notions. Get them peer-reviewed. Show everybody how intricate, innovative and accurate your mathematical modeling is and I'll happily back off. But as long as you are just making these crazy claims here, I'll just keep laughing.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: Agree. But it is used only being wired to the hat. And that’s when the crescent comes up.

Only when it is wired incorrectly - as it is, in the picture you picked.


(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: For me it is clear without any approximation that both shapes are similar.

Similarity is not sufficient. Any shape can have some points of similarity with any other shape. In order to represent a crescent, it must be a crescent and it isn't.

(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: In terms of ancient people EVERYTHING is mighty. The sun, the moon, the stars, the cow, the tree, the rain, the thunder, the ocean, the fire, the lion, the elephant, the kangaroo etc.
So why mighty sun is represented by bull? Why not kangaroo or alligator?

They didn't know about kangaroos. They had to pick a common animal and the bull was common.

(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: Why groups of people, who was disconnected from each other for thousands years, suddenly decided that bull represents the god?

A common domesticated animal invaluable to agrarian societies - the male version being mighty and providing useful labor, the female providing milk and sustenance - it is not only not surprising that the bull would be deified, it is expected.

(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: And how easy to answer this question by telling that they all were observing the crescent moon, which was defined as god and they were connected it to the bull by similarity of shape of its horns with horns of crescent.

This is why your explanations is unnecessarily complex. First, you have to prove that the ancients used bull as a stand-in for crescent moon - of which there is no evidence. Then you have to show that all of them - without exception - defined the crescent moon as god - of which there is no evidence. So, it is not an easy answer.

However, we do know that they did attach god-like significance to anything that could be regarded as a "provider" - which explains the bull-worship.

(October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm)Monolens Wrote: And I would like to remind you your categorical “moon has no connection with fish”
Just look at the symbols from this book. Are you still sure that there are no connections?

What are these pictures supposed to prove? I see no fishes here.
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Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Ryantology - September 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 28, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 29, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Doubting Thomas - September 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by gall - September 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Walking Void - September 27, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 27, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by MindForgedManacle - September 28, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - September 28, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 1:35 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:54 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:02 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 1, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 1, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by LastPoet - October 2, 2013 at 6:13 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Tonus - October 2, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by ManMachine - October 2, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 2, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by ManMachine - October 2, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 7:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by LastPoet - October 3, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 6, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 17, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 2:31 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 4, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Jackalope - October 6, 2013 at 8:57 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:58 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Fidel_Castronaut - October 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 5:17 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 16, 2013 at 9:28 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 17, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 17, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 3:56 pm
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