The thing that I find funny is that theists just assume everyone thinks objective morals exists. So all they have to do is employ an "If...Then..." argument, and viola, praise Jesus!
I remember having a chat with my university's Christian union president about objective morals last semester. My take on the discussion was that I assumed objective morals to exist, and so I simply asked him "well, what are these objective morals exactly? You say your moral code happens to match these objective morals, so what exactly are they, since you say you live by them?" 3 hours later and he still couldn't give me even one entry of this mythical objective code. I can't remember how the discussion went, but I do remember at one point he was trying an analogy to do with the sunset: "everyone that I know thinks sunsets are beautiful". And when I told him I think sunsets are ok, he said "well, what about the Grand Canyon? Surely *everyone* thinks it's spectacular?" I was just thinking to myself "well, shit..."
I remember having a chat with my university's Christian union president about objective morals last semester. My take on the discussion was that I assumed objective morals to exist, and so I simply asked him "well, what are these objective morals exactly? You say your moral code happens to match these objective morals, so what exactly are they, since you say you live by them?" 3 hours later and he still couldn't give me even one entry of this mythical objective code. I can't remember how the discussion went, but I do remember at one point he was trying an analogy to do with the sunset: "everyone that I know thinks sunsets are beautiful". And when I told him I think sunsets are ok, he said "well, what about the Grand Canyon? Surely *everyone* thinks it's spectacular?" I was just thinking to myself "well, shit..."
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
