(October 18, 2013 at 2:02 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: But Gen, an apologist would just respond that the objective moral standard is God's nature, wouldn't they?
That's what I said an apologist would say. And that's the first step in the game "hide the goalposts".
A conceptual standard and a conscious entity's nature are two separate things. So, saying that "objective moral standard is god's nature" would either mean that god's nature conforms to an objective moral standard - in which case, his existence is irrelevant to the existence of this standard - or that the standard is determined by god's nature - in which case it is no longer objective.
The next move is to actually conflate the two different concepts and claim that god's nature - somehow - is the moral standard. At which point the whole thing stops making any sense at all.