(October 20, 2013 at 8:52 pm)John Gray Wrote: To Deny the existence of God is to accept the categories [framework] of monotheism.
First assertion: Not all atheists have been religious, not all atheists have been monotheists. Second assertion: Actually, very few completely dismisses the possibilities of gods, it's just that sufficient evidence is still lacking.
Quote:As these categories fall into disuse, unbelief becomes uninteresting.
Unbelief is uninteresting, what of it?
Quote:Atheists say they want a secular world, but a world defined by the absence of the Christian God is still a Christian world.
Third assertion: Not every atheist have been a christian, and thousands of millions of muslims, hindus and taoists disagree that it's a christian world.
Quote:Secularism is like chastity, a condition defined by what it denies. If atheism has a future, it can only be in a Christian world.
Fourth assertion, and this passage needs most definitely some elaboration.
Quote:Atheism is a late bloom of a Christian passion for truth.
Fifth assertion: Atheism is nothing more than the lack of belief in any gods. Having a "passion for truth" is not a requirement.
Quote:No Pagan is ready to sacrifice the pleasure of life for the sake of mere truth.
Sixth assertion: Who said that truth and pleasure are mutually exclusive?
Quote:The long delayed consequence of Christian faith was an idolatry of truth that found its most complete expression in Atheism."
Complete and utter bullshit.
arvind13 Wrote:Hi guys. I just joined this forum. I thought this quote was fascinating and would be interesting to reflect upon and discuss about.
Welcome to AF! We don't get that many pagans around here

(October 20, 2013 at 10:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: This is why I despise philosophers. Pointless rambling about inconsequential nonsense.
I can second that. The only philosopher I know to use her powers for good and actually come to useful conclusions with philosophical musings, is Apophenia.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura