(January 27, 2010 at 10:00 pm)TruthWorthy Wrote: then why do you stop short of saying that belief isn't based on what's real, that the evidence isn't suggestive in itself but only a product of God?
In the way you say that everything is God, you're really just renaming everything/the universe "God".
Point being that when disagreement arrises in discussion you become ambiguous or you don't explain what you mean properly so everything stops in the way of talking and becomes an argument about who's right/who can win.
Faith can't be based on something verifiable - that's an intellectually bankrupt notion. Belief is very real and basic.
The hard evidence could or could not be proof of God ...do you see that it can never be verifiable? That's how it has to be, and that's how it works out logically. I'm not interested in changing anyone's mind.. which is why I have no interest in explaining the detail. What I do have interest in is the logical concept of the idea.. which people then aren't satisfied with because they want to know the fine details of faith... which they at the same time deny... so that's a completely pointless exercise, and something I just can't be bothered to indulge.
That's a common theme. People have no come back on the point and go into safe ground of classic old arguments because they know that can lead no where and they can feel they've held ground.
