RE: Chairity wont allow atheist to help.
October 25, 2013 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2013 at 9:26 am by John V.)
(October 25, 2013 at 9:11 am)Esquilax Wrote: That's because you're a willful, persistent equivocator; charity work should be the one avenue where no help should be turned away, least of all on such petty grounds.Why? What if no help is needed? This soup kitchen can feed up to 350 people at a time and is open every day. Ten atheists on one Saturday are apparently insignificant to their operations.
Quote:And I can almost guarantee you that christians would be welcomed to participate in an atheist charity drive; it's important to note that you haven't actually come up with a parallel at all, you've just looked at an atheist group and assumed they'd turn away volunteer help from christians. Frankly, that's bullshit.No, you're assuming, and I'm actually researching. I quoted their website as saying that they're open to atheists, humanists, etc. They're excluding theists from membership.
I've since found an announcement regarding their care package giveaway which specifically says they'll accept theist help. Call me a skeptic, but do you think it's possible that they added in this bit og hypocrisy as a CYA measure?
Quote:Ahh, I see: so while the christian group involved is using their media attention to insult atheists and grumble about secularism, you'd rather target the atheist group who,The earliest mention of this I can find is the Friendly Atheist post. Do you think he was contacted by the atheist group, or the soup kitchen? Unless you can find something earlier than this which was more likely initiated by the soup kitchen, the evidence indicates that it's the atheists who are publicizing this, and the soup kitchen was likely responding to a request for comment.
Quote:after being turned away despite an offer of volunteering sans any representation for the group itself,Actually their first offer had them wearing atheist t-shirts. When turned down, they said they'd do it without the shirts. But, they had already made it clear that getting their message out was part of their motivation.
Quote:I can see how that blatant example of... collecting donations for the homeless, would seem so scummy to you.Oh please, the Christians are clearly doing much, much more than the atheists in this case.