RE: Moral Argument for God's Existence
October 25, 2013 at 9:47 am
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2013 at 9:54 am by bennyboy.)
(October 25, 2013 at 6:50 am)genkaus Wrote:Okay, I was confused by your definition of an experience-less version of Moral Man, and interpreted "motivations" and "objective" in that condition to refer only to things like reflexes and instincts, as opposed to ideas.(October 25, 2013 at 5:32 am)bennyboy Wrote: Yes, but an equivocation has to be resolved here: there's morality, as in the tendency act morally, and there's morality, as in the body of ideas or world view which determines what is considered moral and immoral.
And we've been talking about the latter from the very beginning - as indicated by the definition of morality I provided at the outset. I haven't once talked about any tendency to act according to any moral code.
Since I obviously didn't understand what you were trying to say at that point, I'll have to look at it again.
(October 25, 2013 at 6:50 am)genkaus Wrote: Third of all, I have not given the slightest indication nor presented any evidence to show that there is any such "tendency to adhere to a known moral code". Don't go about creating strawmen.It's only a strawman if I'm trying to use it as a trick to defeat you in debate. I think that since this tendency seems the most likely to be presented as a genetic traits, it seems the most likely definition of "morality" to be objectively founded. So whatever moral code is defined as in a particular culture, some will follow it very closely, some looser, and some not at all-- at least in part to genetic influences. But I'm glad to drop this, since the moral code is what the thread is more about.
Now, I have to go back to the confusing task of understanding how a moral code can be objective, when the process of arriving at it involves arbitration between competing views of rightness of behavior.