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Four Scenarios
Scenario One: I am an atheist. I am in the mall and I see an elderly woman drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill and return it to the woman who dropped it; why?
Scenario Two: I am a Christian. I am in the mall and I see a young man drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill, and instead of returning it to the man who dropped it, I slip it into my pocket; why?
Scenario Three: I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I honk my horn for a long while and I yell out some choice words; why?
Scenario Four: I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I grip the wheel, muster a smile, and carry on with my journey without angst; why?
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Moral Model
1) Present four scenarios (frames) depicting behaviors commonly not associated with subject sets.
2) Install qualifier to establish model integrity.
(in this model: separation/organization of sets into a staggered format)
3) Install three separate detractors to support the qualifier.
(in this model: religious beliefs, age, and gender)
4) Observe reactions of participants.
(in this model: paying particular attention to detracted responses, thus establishing a baseline for the qualifier)
5) Tally total number of responses, both ratable and non-ratable.
(to establish sub-sets)
6) Calculate subset participation and valuation using model parameters.
(in this model: using scenario sets as a baseline)
7) Divide subsets into relative category with +/- factors in % for each set.
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A “set” refers to the groups depicted within the scenarios (in this model: Christians and atheists). The subsets refer to those observing the sets within their frames (scenarios). Set “A” is the atheists (in) the frame. Set “B” is the Christians (in) the frame. Subset “A” is the atheists (observing) the sets within their respective frames. Subset “B” is the Christians (observing) the sets within their respective frames. Out of a total of 27 responses, I found 18 to be what the model determines as “ratable”. The 9 remaining responses are “non-ratable” as determined by the model. Of the 18 ratable responses I found subsets “A” and “B” to be considerably close in their scoring, and I was not surprised by the results.
Subset “A” scored at 66/34%
Subset “B” scored at 61/39%
These results reflect each subset’s respective moral norm, with subset “A” showing a 66/34% “positive response/negative response”, and subset “B” displaying nearly the same numbers with 61/39%. Bear in mind that the tenor of the responses does not determine positive v. negative results, as the qualifier serves that function. The long and short of this model exercise is that subsets “A” and “B” have nearly identical “moral” values. In other words - religion does not determine morals, but morals MAY determine religious choice.
Thank you to all who participated in this exercise. I sincerely appreciate your time and input. This is NOT an exercise to make value judgments, and I assure that none are being made by me. Thanks again, and I told you all not to worry, and that it was boring psych geek stuff
Four Scenarios
Scenario One: I am an atheist. I am in the mall and I see an elderly woman drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill and return it to the woman who dropped it; why?
Scenario Two: I am a Christian. I am in the mall and I see a young man drop a $10 bill on the ground. I pick up the bill, and instead of returning it to the man who dropped it, I slip it into my pocket; why?
Scenario Three: I am a Christian. A woman cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I honk my horn for a long while and I yell out some choice words; why?
Scenario Four: I am an atheist. A man cuts me off in traffic. Frustrated, I grip the wheel, muster a smile, and carry on with my journey without angst; why?
____________________________________________________________
Moral Model
1) Present four scenarios (frames) depicting behaviors commonly not associated with subject sets.
2) Install qualifier to establish model integrity.
(in this model: separation/organization of sets into a staggered format)
3) Install three separate detractors to support the qualifier.
(in this model: religious beliefs, age, and gender)
4) Observe reactions of participants.
(in this model: paying particular attention to detracted responses, thus establishing a baseline for the qualifier)
5) Tally total number of responses, both ratable and non-ratable.
(to establish sub-sets)
6) Calculate subset participation and valuation using model parameters.
(in this model: using scenario sets as a baseline)
7) Divide subsets into relative category with +/- factors in % for each set.
_____________________________________________________________
A “set” refers to the groups depicted within the scenarios (in this model: Christians and atheists). The subsets refer to those observing the sets within their frames (scenarios). Set “A” is the atheists (in) the frame. Set “B” is the Christians (in) the frame. Subset “A” is the atheists (observing) the sets within their respective frames. Subset “B” is the Christians (observing) the sets within their respective frames. Out of a total of 27 responses, I found 18 to be what the model determines as “ratable”. The 9 remaining responses are “non-ratable” as determined by the model. Of the 18 ratable responses I found subsets “A” and “B” to be considerably close in their scoring, and I was not surprised by the results.
Subset “A” scored at 66/34%
Subset “B” scored at 61/39%
These results reflect each subset’s respective moral norm, with subset “A” showing a 66/34% “positive response/negative response”, and subset “B” displaying nearly the same numbers with 61/39%. Bear in mind that the tenor of the responses does not determine positive v. negative results, as the qualifier serves that function. The long and short of this model exercise is that subsets “A” and “B” have nearly identical “moral” values. In other words - religion does not determine morals, but morals MAY determine religious choice.
Thank you to all who participated in this exercise. I sincerely appreciate your time and input. This is NOT an exercise to make value judgments, and I assure that none are being made by me. Thanks again, and I told you all not to worry, and that it was boring psych geek stuff
