(October 28, 2013 at 7:16 am)bennyboy Wrote:(October 27, 2013 at 8:34 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Thus we establish logically the naturalism is in fact the basic foundation of reality, not some sort of supernatural God.I don't accept this dilemma: "Not God, therefore as it seems." There are other possibilities that are neither religious nor naturalistic. Or, to put it another way, what constitutes actual nature may not be what it seems to us.
Plantinga is most certainly a Christian and when he writes of God, he writes about the Christian God, omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent, creator of all. This God which he claims is above naturalism, and creates nature is as I demonstrated, simply impossible. Naturalism is above and beyond any possible, omni-everything creator God.
You may wish to consider other possibilities, but I am specifically aiming at Plantinga's arguments against naturalism in favor of the standard OEC God of Christianity et al.
Plantinga's basic assumptions about the nature and attributes of God create a self contradictory and self defeating hypothesis.
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Cheerful Charlie
If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
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If I saw a man beating a tied up dog, I couldn't prove it was wrong, but I'd know it was wrong.
- Attributed to Mark Twain