RE: Quran Contradiction Disproves Islam
November 2, 2013 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: November 2, 2013 at 12:08 pm by sofia86.)
(October 31, 2013 at 8:37 pm)Polaris Wrote: The view of Hell in Islam is a temporary state where the sins of mankind are burned away so that they may enter Heaven as clean servants.
please prove this statement using the Qur'an alone.
(November 1, 2013 at 12:45 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Sofia I'm still very interested to hear from you about my last post which was about the definition of a contradiction.
Before this thread gets bogged down with what is and isn't hell in the Islamic tradition.
Okay Paul,
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An example of contradicting ideas:
1. You may eat the ice cream.
2. You may not eat the ice cream.
Another one:
1. Alison is a girl.
2. Alisan is not a girl.
anyway, I see what you mean by your first reply to me. It does seem contradictory now.
I will come back after I do more research on sins and forgiveness/repentance, which will definitely require some time before I can say for sure if the Qur'an is consistent in its message..or not.
peace.
(November 1, 2013 at 2:30 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 7:58 am)sofia86 Wrote: Hi Pineapple, here is what i believe about justice..
- be just even if it is against near relatives
(http://quranicteachings.org/justice)
- an eye for an eye but forgiveness is better
(Al-Shura Chapter 42 : Verse 40 "And the recompense of an injury is an injury the like thereof; but whoso forgives and his act brings about reformation, his reward is with Allah. Surely, He loves not the wrongdoers.")
Whoops. Sorry for the very late reply, I missed this post.
Ok so first of all the page you linked me to keeps saying be just but doesn't say what type of justice they believe in. So it answers nothing.
Second of all, forgiveness is the opposite of justice.
Thirdly, an eye for an eye doesn't describe hell. Hell is more like, eternal torture for an eye.
So you think hell isn't just, then?
1. Be just = the punishment (on earth) is equal to the damage inflicted to the victim(s) ... Qur'an verse 42:40.
2. Are you sure forgiveness is opposite of justice? That's like saying a surgeon is opposite of medical field. They could be relevant to one another.
3. What do you mean? Does justice on earth MUST be the same in the afterlife.. in the same currency?