(November 8, 2013 at 11:17 am)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: in life decisions Jesus does surpass any worldly committment. As I said He is the standard of excellence in life. I don't think anyone could deny that. Believers, or not.I’ve always enjoyed how Jesus dove tails Socrates as portrayed by Plato in his works. He's almost the same character as Jesus right up to the death that he welcomes with open arms, it’s uncanny. And, it was written 400 years before Jesus was said to be born, fascinating stuff really. Either way, you and I have common ground here. Our standard for good is the same. Where we differ is where Socrates and Jesus begin to walk separate paths. Have you read The Apology? It's fantastic, and only about 30 pages. I recommend downloading the PDF online for free if you haven't. But, I digress...
(November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: yes I do believe He is the true path to God.
Interesting. I would like to learn more about this. I hope you’ll allow me to come back to it later.
(November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: I, as other Christians live and die daily by Jesus' teachings. Meaning that we are not perfect by any means. But we "try" to instill something worthy of Him with every situation.
Great. Thank you for clarifying your position.
I do still have one question that needs answered. I’m only trying to make sure I have a good grasp of what you’re saying. I think it’s better than pretending to know what you believe. Wouldn’t you agree?
Do you believe that God speaks to you? It seems as though you believe that God tells you things, and you believe with absolute certainty that it’s God. Correct?
And as stated, it is God’s will that supersedes all worldly commitments, have I got this right so far?
(November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm)ronedee Wrote: All that said, I, personally have had life changing events happen to me that has strengthened my faith.
It’s not necessary that you tell me the exact things you’ve interpreted as being God intervening for me to understand your perspective. I need only to understand the level of certainty to which you assign to it in fact being God.
I myself assign high levels of certainty to things I believe, so I can certainly relate to what it means to hold something as absolutely true. So if you would please specify how certain you are, I would be able to get an idea of the category of belief we are talking about.
Perhaps, 1-10? 1 being uncertain, and 10 being absolutely sure without a doubt.
I am genuinely interested in understanding your position. I intend to only ask questions, it is obviously up to you as to whether or not you choose to answer. My hope is that through your answers we may both understand something new. Your cooperation this far is graciously appreciated. I assure you that I do not intend on attacking you or putting words in your mouth.
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