(December 6, 2008 at 8:35 pm)LukeMC Wrote:(December 6, 2008 at 8:19 pm)CoxRox Wrote: Maybe purpose is like the laws. The laws are fixed, they have to be a certain way. Life which is dependant on these laws, gives rise to purpose, they are mutally exclusive??
Okay, life gives these laws a purpose (upholding life), but what purpose does life have? Thes laws don't add anything to the purpose of a human, they just make it possible for a human to survive. Where is the purpose coming from for us?
Quote:Pain, suffering, people having different ideas about purposes or what they should do... This being or force 'includes' pain and suffering and choice for us (limited though it probably is). They must therefore be necessary ingredients, just as the law of gravity is necessary for existence. Stands to reason...
I'm retracting my statement. I have a new road to go down... Pain is a result of nerve stimulus and such things, not the direct interaction of some being. So lets leave that aside. Instead, I ask why people are given the choice to do wrong? If there is no afterlife, then there is no reward for the good, no punishment for the bad. The bad people ruin the lives of the good people and get away with it. Does this benevolent force find it acceptable that it has created people who are only going to be put through pain by other people? Why didn't it instead create the universe in a way that we would evolve altruistic characteristics long before we were capable of harnassing evil? This way, it would have created a lovely place where people help oneanother instead of killing an dhurting. The benevolence of this force is now in question, as it is behaving rather unbenevolently. Unless it rewards the good people? Does it? If not, can you still call it benevolent?
(December 6, 2008 at 8:32 pm)bozo Wrote: CR, I am unfamiliar with Katherine Tate's old granny so your comment is meaningless and a bit of a time waster....like much of your threads.
Bozo, behave!
Or at least take the bickering elsewhere, as neither of you are contributing anything to this thread by arguing like this.
LukeMC, okay your thread I'll bow out with what amounts to " gracefully " in my lexicon.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?
