Jacob Wrestles With God

[Drich]

Hey Folks,

I have a question for the other Illusionist on this Forum.

Why did God need to send his son when in Genesis 32:22-32

So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.

And

Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

So my question is why the Fuck did we need Jesus when God himself is shown throughout the OT to actually be Physically Present to his believers.

Good questions. now allow me to provide a few answers in question form. what did Jesus do that 'God' did not do in the OT?

E.g. Sodom and Gomorrah story Abraham fed God and his two Angels?! Again why do we need Jesus? Why was God Almighty incarnate not sufficient to die on a Cross why did we need some Hypothetical Jesus.

How do you know the appearance of 'God' in the OT was not Jesus? Remember God is a title and not a name. Which means anytime the word 'God' appears in the OT it could (depending on context) be referencing God the Son or all 3 persons of God.

And another thing.

5 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man.

So basically God went oh fuck Jacob will beat me i'll just break his hip! That's a loving God!

what did the wrestling match repersent? Why does one wrestle with God?
Generally (as with jake) It's over one's desire to follow his own will over that of the expressed will of God. If Jake won, he would have lost his soul. what has a greater value? a normal stride? or eternal life? So does a loving God dislocate a leg? or allow one to be eternally lost, but while in this life maintain a normal stride?

Now you Jesus loving freaks read this part of the Old Testament as it should be read! Not in light of the NT as people back in the days of the Scribes and even Jesus day did not have the NT to make things add up.