(November 13, 2013 at 11:03 am)Cinjin Wrote:Who said anything about free will? That is a greek based philosphy. We have a choice to make. Either to accept attonement or not. Otherwise we are all slaves to sin. Last I checked slaves don't have 'free will.'(November 13, 2013 at 10:12 am)Drich Wrote: what did the wrestling match repersent? Why does one wrestle with God?
Generally (as with jake) It's over one's desire to follow his own will over that of the expressed will of God.
So much for free will huh Drich. If god don't get his way, he cripples you. (and eventually tortures you for all eternity) Sounds 'bout right.
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