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Replacing Religious Morality
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RE: Replacing Religious Morality
November 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm (This post was last modified: November 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm by Ryantology.)
Quote:To avoid evil because you fear punishment or loss of reputation is to be good out of self interest, or love of self. If your actions are informed by love of self you steer your course towards Hell.

This makes a mockery of the entire idea of Christian salvation. To avoid evil for selfish reasons is repeatedly and expressly encouraged throughout the entire Bible with every single one of its hundreds? thousands? of threats of punishment. Not to mention all the promises of rewards you get for doing what you're told, like everlasting life.

It seems as though it's intentionally set up so that you fail, keeping with the spirit of Old Testament laws that were designed to make it impossible to not sin. Of all the Bible's contradictions, this is by far the most profound. How do you even begin to reconcile it?
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Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 4:10 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 12, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 12, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 12, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Raven - November 12, 2013 at 6:11 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 12, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Simon Moon - November 12, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 9:45 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Simon Moon - November 13, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Walking Void - November 12, 2013 at 6:28 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 12, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Walking Void - November 12, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by mralstoner - November 12, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Raven - November 12, 2013 at 8:45 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Zazzy - November 12, 2013 at 9:11 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 12, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Zazzy - November 12, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 13, 2013 at 3:32 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 12, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by KichigaiNeko - November 12, 2013 at 10:14 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Raven - November 12, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 13, 2013 at 2:34 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Zazzy - November 13, 2013 at 9:56 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 13, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by max-greece - November 13, 2013 at 3:14 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MitchBenn - November 13, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 13, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by kılıç_mehmet - November 14, 2013 at 9:03 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Simsim - November 14, 2013 at 10:31 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 14, 2013 at 5:48 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 14, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2013 at 9:02 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 14, 2013 at 11:11 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 14, 2013 at 9:04 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2013 at 9:09 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 14, 2013 at 9:13 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 15, 2013 at 1:38 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MitchBenn - November 15, 2013 at 7:30 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Doubting Thomas - November 15, 2013 at 2:19 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 15, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 15, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 15, 2013 at 9:53 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 15, 2013 at 11:19 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 15, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 16, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 16, 2013 at 2:10 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 15, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 15, 2013 at 3:15 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 15, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Doubting Thomas - November 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 15, 2013 at 5:38 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MitchBenn - November 15, 2013 at 6:46 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by shamgar - November 15, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 15, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 16, 2013 at 1:54 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 16, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 16, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 16, 2013 at 4:28 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Bipolar Bob - November 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 17, 2013 at 4:40 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 17, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 17, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 18, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 18, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Mothonis - November 18, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 19, 2013 at 3:16 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 20, 2013 at 5:16 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 20, 2013 at 5:40 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MitchBenn - November 20, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 21, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 21, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 21, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 21, 2013 at 3:50 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 21, 2013 at 7:09 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 23, 2013 at 1:32 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 23, 2013 at 9:58 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 26, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 20, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 17, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Lion IRC - November 18, 2013 at 1:26 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Bipolar Bob - November 16, 2013 at 5:08 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 16, 2013 at 5:18 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Bipolar Bob - November 16, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 16, 2013 at 4:43 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 16, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 16, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Bipolar Bob - November 16, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Simon Moon - November 16, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by _xenu_ - November 16, 2013 at 5:54 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 18, 2013 at 1:53 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 6:01 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Lion IRC - November 18, 2013 at 2:20 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 20, 2013 at 5:47 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 20, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Captain Colostomy - November 20, 2013 at 6:24 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 20, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Esquilax - November 21, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 23, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Ryantology - November 23, 2013 at 2:32 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 23, 2013 at 4:18 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Esquilax - November 23, 2013 at 4:22 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 23, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Esquilax - November 23, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by henryp - November 23, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Esquilax - November 23, 2013 at 5:50 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by MindForgedManacle - November 21, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Silver - November 21, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Neo-Scholastic - November 23, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Vadakin - November 26, 2013 at 3:06 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 26, 2013 at 7:28 am
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by Vadakin - November 26, 2013 at 4:57 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by GodsRevolt - November 26, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: Replacing Religious Morality - by genkaus - November 26, 2013 at 6:22 pm

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