(November 15, 2013 at 10:50 am)genkaus Wrote: Three things:
1. I've never found the whole "objective morality needs god" argument to be persuasive in the least. I won't get into it here, but a few discussions in the philosophy forum would show why god's actual existence is not going to make religious morality any more objective or the value of human life any more intrinsic.
3. My own view is that morality is about how you live your life - not just with respect to others, but yourself as well. Without going into details, the simple idea is to figure out you need to do - considering your own life and the society you live in - in order to live the way you want to.
1) I think what it's about, is that we have a conclusion that we'd like to believe about the nature of our existence, and God is the only answer that leads to the conclusion we want. Not just in morality, but meaning, and not being finite. I'm sure there are some "You're no the boss of me" cards to be played, but the idea of God having some legit authority is pretty reasonable compared to being nice cause nice is nice.
3) The funny thing about my personal 'living the way I want', is I'd prefer to believe in God. It's clearly the better way to go. The comfort of an eternal happy existence, and everybody should be nice to eachother. It's not a mistake it's so popular. It's better (minus it not being true).
The reason I bring that up, is that I'm not reverse engineering how to live anymore based on what I wish the world was. I'm trying to do so based on my new 'objective' foundation which is, I'm guessing, mostly biological.