Jacob Wrestles With God

[MindForgedManacle]

The evils and calamities and hardening of hearts (and distress at not getting our own way) that God creates are NOT the same as the capital "E" Evil which exists as the ontological opposite of good on our moral compass. And which gets progressively more and more evil as our separation from God increases further and further until the point of no return - hell.

If you believe Evil to be a metaphysical entity in its own right, you can no longer escape the simpler version of the Euthyphro Dilemma. And you're also setting up an ontology wherein God is not supreme, but rather beneath goodness and evil.

The irony is that most God-haters and anti-theists actually DO think that, ontologically, God created evil, because they routinely endorse the idea that there is no such thing as objective evil- since that would only exist IF God exists.

And that is the kind of philosophical n00biness theists so easily get into when they start waiving around philosophical terms. Firstly, there are a good number of atheists who think that there is an objective measure of "good and evil". Heck, even in the philosophical academic community, nearly everyone who adheres to moral realism is - drum roll please - an atheist, not theists. Google search the "Phil Papers survey".

That, coupled with your complete lack of justification for asserting that, I'm starting to think you just say whatever you think will fight off atheists.

You can hear them all rejecting biblical concepts of evil and sin and telling Isaiah...God didn't create evil because God doesn't exist

And that's a red herring and hasty oversimplification fallacies. And I don't see Esquilax saying that. He was pointing out that the Bible does in fact say that God creates/created evil.