(November 15, 2013 at 9:53 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: I'm not very familiar with Plantinga's work. Swedenborg explains God's nature as a Creator well in "Divine Love & Wisdom." Divine love expresses itself as an unconditional gift, similar to the Thomist conception of primal matter as a propensity to be.
Cool.

Quote:Now, you are quibbling. The point is like this. You do not give gifts to make another person feel good, not yourself. That doing so also makes you feel good is a consequence of your actions, not the motivation for your actions.
You do so because you value making other people happy (usually). My point is we don't do things in a vacuum. Our ends are at best a means to please our inclinations to do what we value. I don't see anything wrong with that, it's just how things would have to be for agents, it seems.
Quote:Because I keep an open mind as I listen to your opinion.
You misunderstood me I think. What I mean is that if, to you, each side of this just as reasonable as the other, how can it be used to support another view? Since the opposing side is just as reasonable to you, it would seem you would also have to affirm that it doesn't support your other view. o.o