Reflecting on Atheism.

[The Reality Salesman01]

I hope so. No doubt, some philosophers have said and continue to say bat shit crazy things. Then again, people tend to do that regardless of profession. And that of course doesn't make them wrong or inconsequential mumbo-jumbo. I mean, Aristotle was wrong about a looottt of things (and right about a lot of things too), yet we recognize his brilliance and intellectual contributions, almost unmatched in history by any single individual (maybe Plato and Newton). Mathematics shows that non-Euclidian geometry is possible... ah forget it, you see where I'm going.

TL;DR I agree. :p

Did you know Aristotle was convinced that thoughts came from the heart and that blood was cooled through the thing between the ears (the brain)? Lol...But, yes. I use his forms of causation to dispute the KCA all the time.

All things that come into being have a cause (yes, and don't ignore the necessary material cause)

The universe came into being (didn't come from nothing)

Therefore, the universe had a cause (and what wood, pray tell, did this carpenter construct his table from?)

If something existed for God to exert his causal power on, it seems as though there's still something that has yet to be explained away, eh?

(That's the short version, for the full version I'll have to refer you to debate.org)

Socrates is my favorite. I think if I had one wish, it would be to have Socrates examine Jesus at The Mandalay Bay casino in Vegas, and have it broadcasted on every local network in the world. There would be a vast amount of ignorance exposed at that event!