(November 16, 2013 at 6:17 am)Esquilax Wrote: So, all the old testament laws are still in effect... it's just that we no longer need to obey them? Are you... are you being serious, right now?That is the core of Christianity for the last 2000 years.
mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. 19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.
This section of Scripture does two things. It establishes that the OT law is still in effect, and that we need a righteousness greater than what the scribes and pharisees had by following the letter of the law.
We later find out the only way for one's righteousness to exceed that of the scribe and pharisees is through the attonement Christ offered.
Quote:"Oh, this hamburger exists! It just doesn't have a bun, or patty, or sauces, or lettuce, or cheese, or..."It would be like the laws of graveity still exist and yet they no longer bind us to the ground.
We can over come and escape these laws using a vechical designed to overcome the laws of Graveity.
Christ provides vechical designed to over come the laws of righteousness, as none of us can obtain righteousness even through our best efforts, per the effort of the scribes and pharisees.
Quote:And this idea that we simply cannot obey all the commandments... why does that not seem like entrapment to you?Not if we have been provided a way to escape conviction that costs us nothing.
Quote:Where's the justice in creating a set of laws that physically cannot be obeyed, and then punishing those who can't obey themthe laws were not set up for us to obey. (That is why there was animal sacrfice in the OT, and Christ in the New.) The Law was only ever designed to establish the Expressed will of God, and His righteousness or standard that is required for us to be with Him for eternity.
Quote:, while setting up a loophole?The 'loop hole' was always apart of the plan. which means by defination it is not a loop hole.