(November 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: @Bipolar Bob
Because morality is about how you should act.
Morality is about how one should act within a given society or culture. It is about enculturation and conformity. Moralities change from society to society and from culture to culture.
Quote:Given we have values and the capacity to reason, there are going to be ways that are 'objectively better' in acting in accordance with and promoting those values. Of course behavior is going to change with the circumstances, but how you behave will be dictated by your moral values and views.
Our moral values are not just something that we are born with, those values come from somewhere. And if you study morals, values and ethics not every single value or moral is based on reason, in fact most moral codes are based on something other than reason. It is our milieu, our cultural and social environment that dictates what we view as right or wrong. All moral values are cultural.
Quote:And you're going to need to defend the claim that there is no objective right and wrong. Given a certain set of values and what you mean by 'moral' and 'immoral', it can very much be said that there are in fact better ways to act in that framework.
I will defend my claim once you define what an objective right or wrong is and give me an example thereof. By the way the burden of proof falls upon those making the positive claim not me. Just like theist have the burden of proof fall upon them when they make the positive claim that god exists, so that same burden falls upon those who claim an objective right or wrong.