(November 17, 2013 at 4:40 am)genkaus Wrote:(November 16, 2013 at 4:28 pm)wallym Wrote: When you said yes, (to the first part) do you believe the laws of mathematics are subjective, because they were made up by God? That's an interesting position. I still think it's underestimating the nature of such a being, and I'm not sure it would change anything, but an interesting idea.
Its not under-estimation or over-estimation. Its the nature of objectivity - if something is determined by a conscious entity's will or opinion, then that thing is subjective. So, if mathematical laws were made up by god, then they would be subjective. Its that simple.
We assume for argument God is.
God creates the existence that we are in.
God creates the laws of mathematics for the existence we are in.
You say the laws of mathematics are subjective.
That's our recap.
The big question here, is: are you governed by those laws of mathematics? I'd assume you couldn't defy physics or make 2+2 = -9. So their subjectivity doesn't have any impact on their authority over you. You are governed by them whether you think they are objective or subjective. They are truth to the reality of your existence.
