RE: Replacing Religious Morality
November 18, 2013 at 1:16 am
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2013 at 1:17 am by henryp.)
(November 17, 2013 at 9:14 pm)genkaus Wrote:(November 17, 2013 at 1:07 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Which requires the capacity of freewill, since a forced choice is no choice at all.
Only in the sense of freedom from any other entity's will.
(November 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm)wallym Wrote: We assume for argument God is.
God creates the existence that we are in.
God creates the laws of mathematics for the existence we are in.
You say the laws of mathematics are subjective.
That's our recap.
The big question here, is: are you governed by those laws of mathematics? I'd assume you couldn't defy physics or make 2+2 = -9. So their subjectivity doesn't have any impact on their authority over you. You are governed by them whether you think they are objective or subjective. They are truth to the reality of your existence.
Truth that can be changed on a whim and a prayer - but yeah, truth. So?
So you're governed by the laws, subjective, whim, whatever. That is your reality. God makes 1+1=2 then 1+1=2. So it's really only 'subjective' from the God's perspective. From your perspective, whatever a God would 'whim' would be your objective truth. Of course this is mostly just silly semantics.
But the important part is that God has the authority over the existence which he created. Whether it is 1+1 = 2, or Human life has worth. It doesn't matter whether we listen to God. The rules of our existence don't change because we don't believe in them or disagree with them.
Again, God as a concept is nonsense, but if he were real, his authority over right and wrong in this existence wouldn't be up for debate. There's no reason that would be any less real than gravity, no?
