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Believing Vs Claiming to Believe
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RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe
(November 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote:
(November 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Christians here have been saying the only proof for someone that God exists is in personal experience, if you do not respond to His calling you'll never find out, what a waste that is.

Personal experience isn't enough, I've had these personal experiences with "god", Christian for 20 years, and they can all be brought back to myself. How I wanted to feel. Funny how the mind works, only seeing what it wants to.

You are lying either about your age or being a Christian for 20 years. Sorry you have no control over your mind, that must be very disturbing. It's terrible you did not have a personal relationship with Christ, I'm sorry you wasted so much time with such a troubled mind. Now I know why you have trouble with the truth, I want over look it though, tough luck.

GC Wrote:You enjoy showing your ignorance don't you. I've studied scriptures for many years, long before you were born.

Quote:Ignorant? No, not with the bible, I don't claim to know everything about it but I do have a good foundation of knowledge to draw from. I couldn't care less how long you've studied them, your god asks quite a lot of his faithful that could be labeled as ridiculous.

Oh, I guess I can go read through a general science book and claim I have a scientific foundation, good to know, I'll remember what you said here for future use. Just because you read it as ridiculous doesn't qualify it as such, sorry it takes an understanding of scriptures.

GC Wrote:You now what the truly funny thing here is, it takes no more than this to make an argument with you.

Quote:Blah blah, you got any new material or are you sticking with your regular superior toned bullshit?

ROFLOL

GC Wrote:You've moved the goalpost so many times in your life it's become a natural way for you to act. God did those things in the past, glad to see you are beginning to see the scriptures as they are. God now lives within use by the Holy Spirit, to me this is a much greater thing.

Quote:Oh please do tell me more about my life. What are you a Christian or a supposed psychic GC? Pick a goddamn lane.

You ain't lived long enough to know what life is about young'in. Your general attitude tells me much about you.

Quote:The point being is that your bible does indeed change goalposts. I take it you agree?

I knew you did not understand the Bible and what God was doing down through history, you're like most, just believing you know things about the scriptures because you own a Bible.

GC Wrote:I've yet to see one intelligent thought from you, just a bunch of loud obnoxious trolling. You have not shown me that what you believe is real and not just an excuse to be a selfish little person.

AG Wrote:I won't lie, unlike some others, I have partaken of my fair share of snide comments and a little fun. It's a good thing for levity, and as for the snide comments sometimes I let my sarcastic nature get the better of me but hey you've never done that right? Wink

I have my fun here, just like everyone else, and yes I make snide remarks at times, I've never denied it.

AG Wrote:As for intelligent conversation you're entitled to your opinion but like I said opinions are fun so here's mine;
You're a douche. You talk down to people and then play the holier than thou card when people call you out on it. You act like you're intellectually superior but frankly you just spit out platitudes as truth and can hardly make an argument without making bare assertions or back peddling wildy and screaming "THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT!" (Of course that isn't meant literally before you ask me to quote you boyo but you catch my drift) or without using circular reasoning that we have all told you is bullshit.

It's your right to believe what you want but when you, make assertions about scriptures or God with out understanding what you are saying, I'm going to tell you that you're wrong. I'm not going to beat around the bush, not for you or anyone else. You believe I set myself up above you, I find that quite curious. When I pray for you or anyone else on this forum I'm being a servant, I set myself below you to lift you up before God, prayer is service work and those who use it as something else have mistaken what prayer in a Christians life is about. Biblically I am your superior, I've allowed God to teach me not only directly but through many very intelligent people. There are many many who are superior to me in bible knowledge, these I listen to and learn from. There are many here who are superior to me in many subjects and generally I stay away from those discussions.

AG Wrote:What I believe is constantly real and true, I don't believe in your god, or are you calling me a liar? And yet again I have to tell you to stop telling me things about me, and selfish?? I'm hardly selfish you sanctimonious little shit, I take on the responsibility of two people every day of my life, and nearly everything I do in my life is for my family so, again, shut the fuck up.

That's a good thing your doing and I wasn't referring to any part of your life but the spiritual, you gave it up and all the responsibilities that go with it. Serving God is no easy task at times but it is extremely rewarding, even when immature little boys call you names.

GC Wrote:We'll see who's the coward when you're on your death bed. For me death is the entrance into an eternal world of awe and love, truth really sets one free, hell's jail and Christ holds the keys to it and He will never return to unlock it, so once there, eternally there.


Quote:My belief is that there's nothing after this life and frankly I'm going to enjoy the hell out of this life and not be worried about it. As for cowardice? No I don't think that will be my response but we shall see.

Death reveals much about people.

GC Wrote:Throw all the stones you want at my house, it's built on the strength of an omnipotent God. I have never said I hear God with my ears, the Holy Spirit speaks from within.

I've provided more than you could ever handle.

GC

Quote:Your house is built on lies and self assurances as far as I can tell.

I'm handling everything but your blatant arrogance quite well child, and even that won't cross my mind til your next reply if you choose to do so.

My house is built on the truth of God, something you some how missed and now because I stand on that truth you call me arrogant, you speak as a child and show you have little regard for those who want live as you do, what a waste of life.

GC

(November 18, 2013 at 2:49 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(November 18, 2013 at 2:37 am)Godschild Wrote: Just how old are you 6 or 7. This is when children of Christians know how ridiculous that question is, grow up.

GC

That's not an answer.

Again.

It is when one shows no more mental capacity than what BW portrays.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by The Reality Salesman - November 8, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Raeven - November 8, 2013 at 10:52 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 12:45 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:31 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 4:12 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by freedomfromforum - November 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 3:29 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 1:43 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 4:00 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by freedomfromforum - November 9, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 6:03 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Brakeman - November 10, 2013 at 10:24 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 13, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Brakeman - November 13, 2013 at 7:06 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 8, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Ben Davis - November 8, 2013 at 12:02 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Raeven - November 8, 2013 at 11:33 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Minimalist - November 8, 2013 at 11:41 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Fruity - November 8, 2013 at 11:45 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 9, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Whateverist - November 10, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 11, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 12, 2013 at 4:53 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 13, 2013 at 7:00 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by The Reality Salesman - November 13, 2013 at 10:56 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 14, 2013 at 1:40 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by The Reality Salesman - November 14, 2013 at 10:08 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 14, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 15, 2013 at 2:02 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by LostLocke - November 15, 2013 at 2:17 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 15, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 16, 2013 at 5:18 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 16, 2013 at 6:11 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 16, 2013 at 6:23 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 16, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 16, 2013 at 8:50 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 17, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 17, 2013 at 7:37 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 17, 2013 at 7:49 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 18, 2013 at 2:37 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 18, 2013 at 2:49 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 18, 2013 at 3:49 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bob Kelso - November 16, 2013 at 10:47 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 17, 2013 at 7:42 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bob Kelso - November 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 18, 2013 at 3:31 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 18, 2013 at 4:04 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 18, 2013 at 4:31 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 18, 2013 at 6:16 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 18, 2013 at 8:51 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bob Kelso - November 18, 2013 at 1:30 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 18, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bob Kelso - November 18, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 19, 2013 at 1:07 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Brakeman - November 18, 2013 at 9:32 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Brakeman - November 16, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by The Reality Salesman - November 15, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 15, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Doubting Thomas - November 13, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by ronedee - November 13, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 13, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 15, 2013 at 3:19 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by LostLocke - November 15, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Godschild - November 17, 2013 at 7:45 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Esquilax - November 17, 2013 at 7:48 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Foxaèr - November 17, 2013 at 7:43 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 19, 2013 at 3:58 am
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Brakeman - November 19, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Bad Wolf - November 19, 2013 at 1:55 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by freedomfromforum - November 19, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Neo-Scholastic - November 19, 2013 at 2:26 pm
RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe - by Tonus - November 19, 2013 at 2:53 pm

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