RE: Believing Vs Claiming to Believe
November 18, 2013 at 8:51 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2013 at 8:57 pm by Godscreated.)
(November 18, 2013 at 6:55 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:(November 18, 2013 at 4:31 pm)Godschild Wrote: You want to know ask God, I do not know the answer to that. Troll with God for a while, He has more patients than I do.
GC, no kidding, this was so close to being the best answer you have ever given to any question I've ever seen posed to you. Guess what? It's okay not to know. Nobody here is going to give you shit if you admit that you don't know something. There's lots of stuff we don't know.
The reason we have these "debates" is because sometimes you make it sound like you do know things like this. That's the point of those types of questions. To point out how absurd something is, and bring attention to the fact that you couldn't possibly know the answer to that.
You must have misunderstood my intent, I'm tired of messing with someone who is so childish that they must have a question answered their way or it doesn't count as an answer. By the way, I see you no differently, you can't stand it when a Christian gives you an answer that you do not like.
TheRS Wrote:I said it was almost the best answer because you're so close to seeing what I'm hoping for you to see.
Yep, you think you have me in a corner and can talk me out of my belief, believe me your mouth ain't got enough words.
TheRS Wrote:If we don't know because we don't know God, why don't you know?
Not a question I see as relevant, why should I, God created a universe, if that's not satisfying to you then you will never be satisfied in or with life, sorry. I look at what God does for mankind, not at a selfish little idea that has no relevance in life, you see I take God seriously, unlike you.
TheRS Wrote:Why can't you ask him, and get the answer?
Why don't you. I have enough respect for God not to misuse prayer in such a way as you are suggesting. You on the other hand well.... I think we all know.
TheRS Wrote:What is it about God's nature that makes these absurd questions inherent to the topic?
Why would a question such as this be of any importance to those who are concerned about God's work for mankind, petty stuff should be left to those who do not care and since that's you deal with the question with God.
TheRS Wrote:Do you really think that we're just so set on ignoring something that makes perfect sense, or is there stuff about God that literally doesn't and can't make sense?
Of coarse there are things we can't understand about God, such as how could He love us enough to allow His only Son to die for a bunch of ingrates. Now that's a mystery only God can answer and one day I'll find out the answer to that.
TheRS Wrote:Questions like that, and others are easy to construct to show the contradicting nature of God. But we don't make-up the premises upon which his nature is founded.
There's nothing contradictory about God, it's only in your head and you know what the other atheist say about a mind leading you in the wrong direction, right.
TheRS Wrote:Just level with us, and admit you don't know when we ask something. The next step is being honest with yourself about why you don't know.
I give you my answers, just because they are not acceptable to you does not mean they are dishonest answers. I'm honest with myself about not knowing all there is about God, if I knew all about Him what kind of God would He be. Probably like all other gods, made of stone, wood, money or any other material stuffs.
TheRS Wrote:I realize you'll probably just tell me to go fuck myself, I just thought it would be worth a shot.
Your realization was as wrong as you are about God.
GC
@ bad Wolf, I'm finished with you on this thread, maybe you will come to reality in another.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.