RE: Where do you want to end up?!
November 21, 2013 at 12:07 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm by Tonus.)
(November 21, 2013 at 11:23 am)themonkeyman Wrote: No one said that God would turn on the rest of our minds. Common @Drich even Satan Rebelled so either God is actually defeatable or that God is not giving people the fuller picture of is power so is therefore punishing people who as he designed are stepping out of line.
That's a good point. Was the Devil just a nihilist? Maybe clinically depressed? Otherwise he had to know that taking on god guaranteed his death. And a considerable number of angels also abandoned their heavenly posts (some of them to have sex with Earth women, which makes you wonder how spiritual beings got so horny). What did they see that made such a final decision seem attractive? Did they perceive some weakness in god? Did they decide that being in the very presence of the almighty in heaven was a drag?
Adam and Eve didn't hesitate to cross the single line that god drew in the sand, in spite of a clear warning of the consequences for doing so. Was a perfect life on Earth so underwhelming that they figured that a game of cosmic Russian Roulette would be preferable?
The Israelites saw the hand of god directly, as one torment after another was visited on Pharaoh and the waters of a sea parted so completely that the land they walked on was dry. They experienced one miracle after another on their way to the Promised Land. And yet they were cursed to spend almost 40 years in the desert because they angered god time and again. Was the manna not tasty enough? Did the sand get in their underwear too often? What was it that made them treat god with such disdain?
Judging from the Bible itself, god doesn't command much in the way of fear and respect when he deals with his creation directly. That just doesn't make sense.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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