Replacing Religious Morality

[henryp]

I don't know if you remember this, but way back when, this nonsense all started because you said God's moral laws weren't objective. Now you've said 'precisely' to the idea that God's moral law could be objective.

Precisely.

This absurdity is the conclusion here.

In a rational and logical universe, when determining the objectivity of moral laws, we ask whether it is subject to conscious entity's will or not. If yes, then they are subjective and if no, then they are objective. This is the simple, logical rule regarding objectivity within a rational worldview. But, as you've correctly concluded, a major implication of god's existence is that that worldview goes right out the window. The criteria for objectivity can be changed on a whim and can no longer be taken for granted. So, while within a sane worldview, the god-given moral laws are not objective, all that needs to be done is to change the rules of objectivity and they can be objective.

Which makes sense, that the rules of objectivity could be different for an 'perfect all-powerful being' that created existence. You use the phrase Whim a lot, as though you're human impulse and an allpowerful beings impulses are comparable, and would have the same rules applied to them. And that seems a bit wonky in itself.

But in the end, whether you believe Math or physics or morality in a world with a God is objective or subjective, the end results are the same, in that they define your existence and until a 'whim' manifests itself, the logical thing to do would be to operate under the laws in place.