(October 29, 2013 at 11:54 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: If I'm not mistaken some of the greatest scientists were Christian thinkers (such as Isaac Newton) ... and you can't use science to disprove religion, all science is are theories, then again we don't comprehend much of the science that is being studied today, by taking college level physics I'm knowledgeable of this, you have come as far as what? Believing in the big Bang THEORY?
LOL... you seem too hold a college degree in high regard. If you are only IN college then you aren't that educated. So ease up on your delusions of grandeur. I have more than likely studied the bible far longer than you (As I studied it all throughout college, and further down my educational road). And that was a few moons ago and I continue to study it.
The bible is littered with historical lies. I say lies because the writers probably knew what they were writing was false but did it anyway to force their agenda. Take the census of Augustus for which Joseph was returning to Bethlehem to take place in. There is no record whatsoever of any such census. And it was NEVER a custom of the Roman census to put the entire empire on hold for a few years while everyone packed up their lives and returned to their city of origin. And the writers of the NT would have been aware of this. So it isn't an error. It's a lie.
Now take the lie about Herod coming to murder Jesus. There isn't a single document except for the bible that states this happened. Now... you might say "The bible is the document that proves it." Let's look at that closely shall we? This great census that Joseph was taking place in... was said to be during the time when Quirinius was Governor of Syria. The problem with that is that Quirinius wasn't governor of Syria until 10 years after the death of Herod. So if little baby jesus was born when Quirinius was governor of Syria... Herod was long dead. And when Herod was alive... Quirinius was leading a war campaign for Caesar... which is WHY he was awarded his governorship. However the writers of the gospels probably knew this... so it's not a mistake... it's a lie.
These are historical facts and cannot be argued. You can choose to be ignorant of them. But that only makes you delusional and well... ignorant.
So why do I not believe? Because the bible has been proven to be full of lies and half truths. It has been shown to be false. This does not disprove God of course. There may be some kind of being that is beyond us. But it isn't Yaweh... and it isn't Yeshua. Both of them to a divine level are fictional characters in a story book written by bronze age savages. The Hebrew God was borrowed from cultures that predate the ancient israelites. They stole their beliefs. And Jesus was just a man made into a legend based on a stolen God figure that never existed. Your religion was created for you by the Roman empire.
All hail Zuul.
