RE: Not Convinced Determinism Makes Sense of Moral Responsibility. Convince Me It Does
December 2, 2013 at 3:34 pm
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2013 at 3:35 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
@Apophenia Are you sure Harris isn't a compatibilist like Dennett? I was under the impression that he was.
Anyhow, @OP this question is a bit nonsensical. Firstly, it's trying to pose a problem for compaitiblist views on morality while simultaneously not recognizing that if it is actually a problem for compatibilists (I don't think it is), then it is also a probblem for libertarian concepts of free will. Take this for example: If I did not 'chose' to do otherwise than I in fact did, why didn't I? Under the libertarian concept of free will, how can I be held responsible for not choosing to choose? This is the regress problem, basically. It makes no sense to talk about choosing to choose what you choose, or choosing to think what you think.
This is among the reasons why few philosophers hold to the libertarian view, and those who do are nearly all theists. In fact, the percentages of philosophers who are some kind of theist (~14%) is approximately the same as those who adhere to libertarian free will (~14%), although I admit I can't remember what the crossover is, so take this bit as a reasonable inference.
Anyhow, @OP this question is a bit nonsensical. Firstly, it's trying to pose a problem for compaitiblist views on morality while simultaneously not recognizing that if it is actually a problem for compatibilists (I don't think it is), then it is also a probblem for libertarian concepts of free will. Take this for example: If I did not 'chose' to do otherwise than I in fact did, why didn't I? Under the libertarian concept of free will, how can I be held responsible for not choosing to choose? This is the regress problem, basically. It makes no sense to talk about choosing to choose what you choose, or choosing to think what you think.
This is among the reasons why few philosophers hold to the libertarian view, and those who do are nearly all theists. In fact, the percentages of philosophers who are some kind of theist (~14%) is approximately the same as those who adhere to libertarian free will (~14%), although I admit I can't remember what the crossover is, so take this bit as a reasonable inference.
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