Re: RE: Atheists condone and condemn rape
December 8, 2013 at 5:46 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2013 at 5:46 pm by NoraBrimstone.)
(December 8, 2013 at 5:37 pm)Duck Wrote:If you don't want or can't afford a child, terminating a pregnancy is the most responsible thing you can do.(December 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote: What if she got pregnant whilst using contraception? Is the "permission" still implicit?
Yes. Contraception is not perfect. You are responsible for the consequences of your actions. It isn't good enough to tell the police 'I was 99% sure that it wouldn't happen like this, it isn't my fault he is dead'.
(December 8, 2013 at 5:36 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: That makes no difference. A person who needs blood or an organ is rarely in that position by choice, either. If you cause a car accident and another person invoves needs your blood or one of your organs, they can't take anything without your consent. And please don't start the whole punishing women for having sex crap. We're allowed to have sex. It's none of your business.
Well hold the phone. I never said you couldn't have sex, but you do need to understand that there can be consequences. And you are responsible for these. The car crash analogy is not the same. The fetus is dependent on you for survival, you created it and you put it there. The law will punish you for hurting someone with a car, but it will not take parts of your body (in the USA it could take your life, however).
I am not punishing women for having sex. I am just pointing out that they are responsible for their actions. Having sex has the possible consequence of getting pregnant. If you are not willing to take the risk, don't do it.
Women aren't baby making machines, thankfully. We have the same rights to our bodies as anyone else. A foetus has no right to our bodies if we don't give consent.