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Poll: Who governs the whole order of things on earth?
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If there is no God, then, one may ask
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RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
Questions like these are really annoying. Because it's not actually what you want to ask, it's hidden in a hypothetical and framed as a question so that you can get away with a lot of unfounded assumptions.

If we take away the "if god doesn't exist" and deal with the rest of the question. You first have to show that there is indeed an order to the world that is governed by one single entity and not an order that resulted from the meddling of many different entities. Then only you get to ask who it is.

There is almost nothing you can show that will qualify inserting "if god doesn't exist" to the front of that sentence because it assumes that god would be the default answer. When the truth is the nature of god cannot even be articulated without introducing at least one logically impossible condition. So the question is invalid.

And then you introduce the false dichotomy that it has to be god or man. Well what if it is the fucking flying spaghetti monster?
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If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 2:35 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Minimalist - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 5:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pineapplebunnybounce - December 10, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 3:45 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Neo-Scholastic - December 11, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Kayenneh - December 10, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 10, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Simon Moon - December 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Mister Agenda - December 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Zazzy - December 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cato - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 10, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by ThomM - December 10, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 4:57 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 5:13 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:17 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 12, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 4:01 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by zenblaster - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 11, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 11, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 11, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by feeling - December 12, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 12, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:37 am

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