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Poll: Who governs the whole order of things on earth?
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If there is no God, then, one may ask
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask
(December 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm)DOS Wrote: 1) The Atheists have no idea of whether the God, afterlife, soul exist.
nobody does. Atheists are just aware of it.

Quote:2) The Atheists have a principal or a position unless an evidence is put to their face they will not accept that the afterlife exists and it puts the atheists on the cockroach level, the cockroaches have no clue about God either...

With regards to knowledge of a God's existence, the comparison is accurate, but not limited to only Atheists, nobody has knowledge of Gods. But, neither cockroaches or Atheists pretend to have knowledge of that which they do not have. Being aware of our ignorance is what separates Atheists from Cockroaches. Being unaware of their ignorance is what Theists and roaches have in common.

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3) The Atheists are loving to be refering to the scientific studies, kind of that white light is not white, but is made up of seven colours to prove the point and it gets them nowhere.
no idea what this means.

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4) The Atheists tend to believe they can make deals, contracts, stipulations with God, i.e. they will believe asap they pull the God's beard or grab his testicle.

Atheists believe they can make deals with a God they don't believe in? I don't think you thought this one through very well.


Quote:5) The Atheists know that the atheists descended from the Ape, the other part of the humanity puts that perspective under suspicion as it is still not proved whether the apes descended from man or otherwise. Nothing is proved, all is permitted.
I'm noticing that you are falling victim to a common error that prevents Theists from understanding the Atheist position. The words "know" and "proved". Also, an individual can hold a view in any number of different degrees of certainty ranging from Not True, Possible, Likely, Not Likely, and Impossible. God as a hypothesis doesn't necessarily automatically get disqualified until a human starts trying to define it. A God could very well be possible, it's the human descriptions that we evaluate and dismiss on the basis of irresolvable objections and insufficient evidence. I can hold that evolution is likely in lieu of the evidence that supports it. But, I'm not married to my belief, I'm open to the idea of new evidence that could compell me to revise it. Your belief in God is not supported by evidence so there is no evidence that you would recognize as a reason to revise your belief. You are certain, with no evidence. You cannot be reasoned out of something you didn't reason yourself into, and your belief is indistinguishable from delusion.

Quote:6) The Atheists think they are governing something or have control over their studies, researches, truth discovering, eyes opening whilst they they are unable to say what they are going to do this same evening.' Man is mortal, but that would be only half the trouble. The worst of it is that he's sometimes unexpectedly mortal - there's the trick!
The atheists are very smart people, their arguments are strong!
I've addressed your question regarding "governing" the universe. You didn't respond. It's really just a straw-man and an attempt to paint Atheists into a position we do not hold. There are things that can be known, and others that may or may not be knowable. The more we know, the more potential we have to positively influence that which is in our scope of influence. Saying this acknowledges that I of course do not know for certain the outcomes of events related to my own future. But, I'm okay with not knowing. Pretending to know gets me nowhere and it makes you say things like what's written above. A dash of humility in your presupposition of other people's views could help you avoid putting your foot in your mouth. Instead of telling people what they think, consider asking them instead. Otherwise, you're just creating straw men to argue with, and none of these targets you take aim at even remotely resemble a view that I, an Atheist have ever defended. Your objections to your own straw men are clumsily structured and lacking in intellectual substance. Try addressing our ideas, and not the ones you suppose us to have.
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If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 2:35 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Minimalist - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 10, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 5:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 10, 2013 at 3:45 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Neo-Scholastic - December 11, 2013 at 7:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 3:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Kayenneh - December 10, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 10:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 8:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 10:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 10, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 10, 2013 at 11:21 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 10, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 10, 2013 at 11:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by houseofcantor - December 10, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 10, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 1:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 10, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 2:36 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 10, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Simon Moon - December 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 10, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Mister Agenda - December 10, 2013 at 3:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Zazzy - December 10, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cato - December 10, 2013 at 5:59 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 10, 2013 at 6:24 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by ThomM - December 10, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 4:47 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 4:57 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 5:13 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:17 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 6:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 6:39 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 7:59 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 8:14 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:22 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Whateverist - December 11, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:24 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Angrboda - December 12, 2013 at 3:29 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 4:01 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 5:02 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 11, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by zenblaster - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 8:40 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Ben Davis - December 11, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 1:52 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 2:38 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by paulpablo - December 11, 2013 at 2:11 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 9:30 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Fidel_Castronaut - December 11, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 8:48 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 9:28 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by max-greece - December 11, 2013 at 9:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 12:13 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by LostLocke - December 11, 2013 at 2:07 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 11, 2013 at 2:50 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by DOS - December 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by pocaracas - December 11, 2013 at 3:23 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Reality Salesman - December 11, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by EgoRaptor - December 11, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Faith No More - December 11, 2013 at 3:35 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 11, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Tonus - December 11, 2013 at 10:05 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by The Valkyrie - December 11, 2013 at 10:22 pm
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by feeling - December 12, 2013 at 12:33 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 6:12 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 6:32 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brakeman - December 12, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Cyberman - December 12, 2013 at 7:58 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Jacob(smooth) - December 12, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: If there is no God, then, one may ask - by Brian37 - December 12, 2013 at 8:37 am

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