(December 12, 2013 at 8:46 pm)cato123 Wrote: Paulpablo,
You're still not understanding. Even though the behavior described is almost entirely contained in Islamic countries/cultures you are stating that the divine basis for the culture expressly prohibits the behavior engaged in by Islam's most ardent followers. Nobody can be this dense, I think you are just being coy.
If I take your word that Islam doesn't condone the behavior described, then what does that say about Islam's ability to influence the behavior of its professed believers? Impotent comes to mind. If Muslims can't follow the rules then the expectation that others see the light and join the fold is simply unrealistic.
You're saying that it's only islamic cultures where men see it as an excuse to rape women because they aren't covering up, this isn't really true as a lot of rapists or sex offenders blame the victim in some way.
You shouldn't take my word for it that Islam doesn't condone rape in anyway, I'm saying in all my time researching and arguing against Islam I've never thought a good argument would be that Islam condones rape, because I haven't seen that anywhere ever, in any Islamic document.
And I don't believe Islam does have a very good ability to influence the behavior of people I never said it does.
There are verses in the quran telling men what to wear aswell as women.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.
