(December 12, 2013 at 10:15 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: You forget that most women are born into the religion and it is the norm for them. A lot of north american muslim women no longer cover up or wear loose clothing. The religion isn't nice to women, but women are born into it, some even believe that's women's role in this world. If you really want to understand how they think you should speak to them or browse some Islamic forums.
Paulpablo, plenty of muslim clerics have said that women deserve to be rape or at least is responsible for it if they do not cover up. Islam goes beyond what is written down in the qur'an, it's what people practice and claim is Islamic. Religion takes different shapes in different times because it's practiced by humans, just because it's not written down doesn't mean it isn't a feature of the religion, because in practice, it is.
But the quran tells men to not even stare at women in order to maintain chastity, so if someone has got from this message that women should be raped if they don't cover up then they're simply an idiot.
Muslims scholars in general believe the punishment for rape should be death.
It's up to you if you want to use this argument against Islam I'm just saying as an atheist who goes on Islamic forums I wouldn't use it because it just makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about.
You might aswell say Islam condones alcoholism because Abdul, a guy you saw on youtube is an alcoholic and says the drinks deserve to be drank because the adverts are too good.
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