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Is Obama guilty of war crimes?
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes?
(December 20, 2013 at 11:02 am)Duck Wrote: Well fuck me, I'm on GC's side (ish) for once! War is indeed a trade-off, and no action is ever really without collateral damage. Given that none of us know what the implication of not doing these strikes would have been, it is hard for us to weigh the consequences against the objective. What if the strikes have prevented five or ten or fifty more 9/11 like attacks?

That's nice and all, but you're weighing "what if's" against knowns. Who's to say that one of those drone strikes that killed an innocent child may have saved five American lives? We don't know that it didn't, but what we do know is that our campaign is taking the lives of innocents. It's awfully arrogant(and easy to do when it's not your family) to simply chalk that up as the price of war. Asshole terrorists targeting us doesn't justify willingly engaging in tactics that take innocent lives.

Try to imagine how you would feel if you and your family were just trying to have a peaceful existence but lived in constant fear from Canadian drones killing one of your relatives. And to top it off, the Canadians see you as a justifiable loss.

Sure, we need to combat terrorism to save Americans, but willingly taking innocent foreign lives in order to prevent a hypothetical American death is not something my conscience will let me live with.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 19, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Psykhronic - December 19, 2013 at 10:57 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by houseofcantor - December 20, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by EgoRaptor - December 19, 2013 at 11:18 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by downbeatplumb - December 19, 2013 at 2:48 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Cinjin - December 19, 2013 at 9:56 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Dragonetti - December 19, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Silver - December 19, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 8, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 9, 2014 at 1:43 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 10, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 10, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 10, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 10, 2014 at 3:14 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 10, 2014 at 5:03 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Dragonetti - December 19, 2013 at 12:05 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by feeling - December 19, 2013 at 12:06 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 19, 2013 at 12:15 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Godschild - December 19, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 19, 2013 at 6:33 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Godschild - December 20, 2013 at 1:16 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 20, 2013 at 5:08 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 19, 2013 at 7:10 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Duck - December 20, 2013 at 11:02 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 20, 2013 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 20, 2013 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 20, 2013 at 4:34 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 20, 2013 at 4:51 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 20, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Napoléon - December 19, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Dragonetti - December 19, 2013 at 12:10 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by TaraJo - December 19, 2013 at 12:17 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 19, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Ryantology - December 19, 2013 at 2:42 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by TaraJo - December 19, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - December 19, 2013 at 9:52 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Whateverist - December 19, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - December 19, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 19, 2013 at 10:42 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - December 19, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 19, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Whateverist - December 20, 2013 at 2:29 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - December 21, 2013 at 10:13 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 10:16 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - December 21, 2013 at 10:19 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 20, 2013 at 9:43 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Whateverist - December 20, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 20, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Whateverist - December 20, 2013 at 9:35 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 21, 2013 at 12:30 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by LastPoet - December 20, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Minimalist - December 20, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by AniKoferBo - December 20, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Ryantology - December 20, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Godschild - December 20, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by rexbeccarox - December 20, 2013 at 8:55 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 20, 2013 at 9:18 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 20, 2013 at 9:22 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Psykhronic - December 20, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Godschild - December 21, 2013 at 3:05 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 3:21 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Faith No More - December 21, 2013 at 9:50 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by kılıç_mehmet - December 20, 2013 at 8:55 pm
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Minimalist - December 20, 2013 at 9:43 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 21, 2013 at 1:41 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Tonus - December 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Aractus - December 21, 2013 at 3:18 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Psykhronic - December 21, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Violet - December 22, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 21, 2013 at 10:34 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 12:14 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 21, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 21, 2013 at 4:22 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Godschild - December 21, 2013 at 5:42 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Whateverist - December 21, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 22, 2013 at 8:46 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 22, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 12:03 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 21, 2013 at 5:55 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 22, 2013 at 12:32 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 22, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 2:46 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 22, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 22, 2013 at 2:51 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 22, 2013 at 3:03 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 22, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by A Theist - December 23, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 23, 2013 at 8:44 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 23, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 23, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 23, 2013 at 1:20 pm
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 26, 2013 at 11:59 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Manowar - December 24, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - December 26, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Blake the Heretic - December 27, 2013 at 4:01 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Polaris - January 9, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Minimalist - December 26, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by FractalEternalWheel - December 26, 2013 at 4:09 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 10, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Minimalist - January 10, 2014 at 2:03 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by xr34p3rx - January 10, 2014 at 2:28 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 10, 2014 at 2:32 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by xr34p3rx - January 10, 2014 at 2:41 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 10, 2014 at 3:39 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 11, 2014 at 12:28 am
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 11, 2014 at 12:34 pm
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 12, 2014 at 4:04 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 12, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 12, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by ShaMan - January 12, 2014 at 3:22 pm
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RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 12, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by là bạn điên - January 12, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: Is Obama guilty of war crimes? - by Mudhammam - January 13, 2014 at 1:09 am
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